Not sure about both of these. I think hurts had 8 roll outs that were thrown away? Those were terrible calls...he's a dual threat, yet you took away one. If they had had him attacking the D with the rolls, it'd been different. They way he rolled, he made it easy to defend...and yet they kept calling it. UA took a dual threat qb and made a pocket passer out of him...

Hurts isn't great. But a lot of those were where he threw the ball away and receivers dropped at least 5 passes that hit them in the hands.

Yep including one that was intended for Harris, that would've easily been first down

Hurt's natural instinct is to roll and a right handed QB will automatically roll right. You are correct, there were several plays where it was a called roll out but the majority were him rolling out on his own to avoid pressure rather than stepping up in the pocket and waiting for a receiver to open up. There were open receivers on most every roll out play he had, the only problem was that once he began to roll out he concentrated on a single receiver on his side of the field and never once looked back to the middle of the field or other side. As a QB you've got to see the whole field. Lastly, even when he was standing in the pocket, he could not make the throws he needed to from an accuracy perspective. Notice that you didnt see Watson rolling out again and again, he's the best dual threat in FBS by the way, and he stepped up and stood in the pocket and waited on his throws to open up and only rolled to buy time on a couple of occasions when it was required to extend the play. Like I said, Hurts is one heck of an athlete but after watching him all season, I'm now convinced he just doesnt have the accuracy to play QB and get Bama their next NC. Remember a guy named Michael Vick, cannon for an arm, best athlete on the field 9 days out of 10. He loved to roll out but wasnt accurate, wasnt successful long term.

Abolt hit it right. He is a great athlete no doubt but he can't hit the broad side of a barn past 30yds and his throwing motion is slower than Cokers. And why does he always take the HUGE hop step before getting set to throw EVERY TIME! I see Tua beating him out personally.
Maybe they can fix it, I do like the kid.

There were catches that should've and could've been made but he didnt make it easy. One of the throws that should've been caught was a low throw that hit the receiver right at the first down marker but was well below his waist. Should've still been caught but once again accuracy, hit him in the chest and he catches it 99 out of 100times. Another throw was low and behind the receiver. He's pretty much on the ground and the throw is slightly behind him so he's having to reach back across his body in the opposite direction from which he's moving. He got his hands on it and once again it was catchable but get it in front of him and it is automatic. The deep balls he did throw were not even close to being catchable. He has accuracy issues both in the pocket and rolling out.

Actually, the DB initiated contact with the receiver on both of those plays. In fact, the NCAA coordinator of officials said that very thing this morning. He tackled the receiver...which I personally believe is what Bama was trying to do to force Clemson to have to kick a FG.
The ND/FSU play was much different. The ND receiver fired off the line and blocked the FSU db like it was a run play. Never made an attempt to look like he was running a route and never looked back for the ball.

I think Saban should have given Barnett a couple more series with the first string before deciding on Hurts at the beginning of the season. Jalen did a heck of a job but he obviously has issues throwing the ball.

The Stats don't lie.

Alabama offense put some numbers up on the board. But the stats show how ineffective we were on offense.

Where our defense was all game I have no clue. They have been there all year making TD and big turnovers and Zip and Pip last night.

I realize they were not as deep this year as in years past but they were the #1 Defense in NCAA this season. You would have thought they made some magic happen early. But it was not meant to be.

Jalen is 18 Rookie quarterback. Saban is grooming him to be a monster QB by his senior year.

When he is a senior expect him to put up some numbers that will make Names like Watson and Newton seem like HS quarterbacks.

Keep on dreaming Pilsbury. He'll never put up numbers like those guys. They both throw the ball accurately and were way more accurate even as 18 yr old freshman. It is what it is. He's an athlete, which sometimes does not translate to a great QB. I'd love to see it but it aint gonna happen. He might get marginally better but that will be it. I might would give him the benefit of the doubt if he was improving rapidly all season but he actually threw the ball better at the beginning of the season than he did at the end. Not a good sign. Like I said in another thread, I like Bama, I'm just a realist. Kinda like AU saying that JF3 was going to learn how to throw the ball. Neither is going to happen. Alabama will win because of the guys around him, not because of him. Also, as to where our defense was, they were sucking oxygen from being on the field so often in the second half without a single sustained break. They just got worn down at the end. Look at the first half when we were moving the ball, scoring and the offense was running the ball, controlling the clock and giving them breaks. Defense sure looked good then.

I believe Bama D exhausted themselves in the first half trying to rattle Watson. They have been great in second half, but Bama O couldn't keep them off the field

I don't see why everybody is all of a sudden done with hurts. Yes he struggled passing but his running is what got us this far. The team loves to play for him and it shows. The kid is 18. He went from okay 4-5A high school ball to being in the D1 national championship with millions of viewers in one year. Everybody is expecting to see an Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady out there throwing darts left and right. You've gotta be realistic. It's going to take times. Out past two quarterbacks were 5 years older than him. Gotta be patient. And his release is way quicker than coker ever was btw.

They made the same mistake Auburn did. Scored too soon on their last drive.

Agreed he did, and by most that should have been enough. The problem is Hurts didn't do enough earlier in the game to let our defense rest. Partially blame play calls and partially blame his accuracy and reads. He simply didn't see some open folks. Perhaps he was concentrating on making safer throws and didn't look downfield as much.

Hurts will be drafted after his JR year.

Could very well be but it won't be to play QB unless his accuracy skills improve a lot.

I don't think so. Bama has the lead with less than 3 minutes to go and defense can't stop Clemson to save their momma. All they had to do was sack Watson one time, make a play on a receiver or something. The two 15 yard penalties that got Clemson 30 yards closer to the goal line was crushing. We get one or two stops on that drive and Bama wins the game. Despite Hurts inability to throw, We played pretty decent for 58 minutes and to lose it in the last minute on the last drive was just horrible.

Dr. B

Yep. 2:24 remaining in game, Clemson starts from their 12 yard line. One play, that's all, just defend one play. The two long passes on the last two drives to Williams were the plays of the game. Everybody is talking about the pick plays for TDs, but their last two TDs wouldn't have happened if we defend either of those circus catches.

Hump was in fine shape to break up the last one, he just got out-jumped/muscled.