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Re: Do you have any opinions that are contrary to social norms? [Re: ikillbux] #2022804
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ignoramus is a synonym of idiot homeboy. This literally happens every time when me or anyone else brings this kinda stuff up. Everyone gets fired up about someone going against the grain around here.

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Originally Posted By: AUstan23
ignoramus is a synonym of idiot homeboy. This literally happens every time when me or anyone else brings this kinda stuff up.
well my advice is to settle it in your heart, you brought it up so it must be something that concerns you,personally if there was a subject that would cause me to post on a public forum about and admit not knowing much,I think it would cause me to learn all I could and settle it


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Originally Posted By: AUstan23
ignoramus is a synonym of idiot homeboy. This literally happens every time when me or anyone else brings this kinda stuff up.
well my advice is to settle it in your heart, you brought it up so it must be something that concerns you,personally if there was a subject that would cause me to post on a public forum about and admit not knowing much,I think it would cause me to learn all I could and settle it


Yea I did settle it. Not lost, confused, troubled, etc. I used to go to church weekly, took notes, studied, prayed, etc. and the more I learned the less it made sense so I let it go instead of lying to myself. I realized the original reason why I thought Christianity was the right religion was because I heard it first at an early age and most people around me followed it, plain indoctrination.


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Re: Do you have any opinions that are contrary to social norms? [Re: ikillbux] #2022892
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Here while I'm at it I'll really ruffle some feathers. I'll preface by saying I'm not a biblical expert or really an expert in anything for that matter. Just an average guy that tries to be objective. Feel free to Google some of this stuff (you prolly won't)

December 25th has nothing to do with Jesus's birthday. It has to do with the winter solstice and incorporates a lot of different traditions of different festivals from different cultures (Yule, etc.)

I don't think man was made from blowing life into dirt and woman was made by taking a man's rib. I also don't think man "fell" when Eve ate an Apple after talking to a snake. Did adam and eve have a bunch of kids that reproduced to have a bunch of kids? Is that not incest? How does that work genetically?

I don't think Noah's ark is a true story. It sounds eerily similar in many ways to the flood in the epic of Gilgamesh. And again, if everyone is dead except Noah and his few family helpers, how do they repopulate the earth? How do the animals repopulate the earth? Genetic variability is a problem again.

I don't think the earth is 6,000-10,000 years old. I think the dinosaurs walked on the earth (can't believe I even have to bring that up). I don't think dinosaurs and people and whitetails were all walking around together due to stratigraphic record.

I think Christianity/Jesus share a lot of similarities with other religions and their messiahs/teachers. Some pre-date Jesus, some don't. They all seem to be attempts to explain our reality and develop what the people at the time thought would be closer to a just society.

I think indoctrination at an early age along with repetition is an extremely powerful tool to get people to think a certain way. I also think all religions divide people up and pit them against each other, each claiming to be the Truth, the Way, the Light.

I think thousands of Gods have come and gone and the popular gods of this time will likely fade away as well as we continue to expand our body of knowledge about the universe including the Earth.

Again, I'm not lost, confused, troubled, insert adjective here. I grew up religious and grew out of it.

I'm not trying to personally attack anyone.

I'm trying to make you think.


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Originally Posted By: AUstan23
Here while I'm at it I'll really ruffle some feathers. I'll preface by saying I'm not a biblical expert or really an expert in anything for that matter. Just an average guy that tries to be objective. Feel free to Google some of this stuff (you prolly won't)

December 25th has nothing to do with Jesus's birthday. It has to do with the winter solstice and incorporates a lot of different traditions of different festivals from different cultures (Yule, etc.)

I don't think man was made from blowing life into dirt and woman was made by taking a man's rib. I also don't think man "fell" when Eve ate an Apple after talking to a snake. Did adam and eve have a bunch of kids that reproduced to have a bunch of kids? Is that not incest? How does that work genetically?

I don't think Noah's ark is a true story. It sounds eerily similar in many ways to the flood in the epic of Gilgamesh. And again, if everyone is dead except Noah and his few family helpers, how do they repopulate the earth? How do the animals repopulate the earth? Genetic variability is a problem again.

I don't think the earth is 6,000-10,000 years old. I think the dinosaurs walked on the earth (can't believe I even have to bring that up). I don't think dinosaurs and people and whitetails were all walking around together due to stratigraphic record.

I think Christianity/Jesus share a lot of similarities with other religions and their messiahs/teachers. Some pre-date Jesus, some don't. They all seem to be attempts to explain our reality and develop what the people at the time thought would be closer to a just society.

I think indoctrination at an early age along with repetition is an extremely powerful tool to get people to think a certain way. I also think all religions divide people up and pit them against each other, each claiming to be the Truth, the Way, the Light.

I think thousands of Gods have come and gone and the popular gods of this time will likely fade away as well as we continue to expand our body of knowledge about the universe including the Earth.

Again, I'm not lost, confused, troubled, insert adjective here. I grew up religious and grew out of it.

I'm not trying to personally attack anyone.

I'm trying to make you think.


Takes a hell of a lot more faith to not belive than it does to believe


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Re: Do you have any opinions that are contrary to social norms? [Re: perchjerker] #2022901
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Originally Posted By: perchjerker
Seek help Booger, you are one sick and twisted puppy! What brand of sauce? grin


Well, right now I'm on a Dreamland sauce kick. It all started in my teens with Kraft original. Then when Burger King started dealing out Bullseye BBQ bacon double cheeseburgers, I knew I had a problem. Perch, it's my cross to bare. cry

BTW, I also hate mayonnaise, mustard, pickles, and Arby's fries. I also DO like A-1 on a good burger too.

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Re: Do you have any opinions that are contrary to social norms? [Re: AUstan23] #2022905
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Originally Posted By: AUstan23
Here while I'm at it I'll really ruffle some feathers. I'll preface by saying I'm not a biblical expert or really an expert in anything for that matter. Just an average guy that tries to be objective. Feel free to Google some of this stuff (you prolly won't)

December 25th has nothing to do with Jesus's birthday. It has to do with the winter solstice and incorporates a lot of different traditions of different festivals from different cultures (Yule, etc.)

I don't think man was made from blowing life into dirt and woman was made by taking a man's rib. I also don't think man "fell" when Eve ate an Apple after talking to a snake. Did adam and eve have a bunch of kids that reproduced to have a bunch of kids? Is that not incest? How does that work genetically?

I don't think Noah's ark is a true story. It sounds eerily similar in many ways to the flood in the epic of Gilgamesh. And again, if everyone is dead except Noah and his few family helpers, how do they repopulate the earth? How do the animals repopulate the earth? Genetic variability is a problem again.

I don't think the earth is 6,000-10,000 years old. I think the dinosaurs walked on the earth (can't believe I even have to bring that up). I don't think dinosaurs and people and whitetails were all walking around together due to stratigraphic record.

I think Christianity/Jesus share a lot of similarities with other religions and their messiahs/teachers. Some pre-date Jesus, some don't. They all seem to be attempts to explain our reality and develop what the people at the time thought would be closer to a just society.

I think indoctrination at an early age along with repetition is an extremely powerful tool to get people to think a certain way. I also think all religions divide people up and pit them against each other, each claiming to be the Truth, the Way, the Light.

I think thousands of Gods have come and gone and the popular gods of this time will likely fade away as well as we continue to expand our body of knowledge about the universe including the Earth.

Again, I'm not lost, confused, troubled, insert adjective here. I grew up religious and grew out of it.

I'm not trying to personally attack anyone.

I'm trying to make you think.


And you probably eat mustard AND ketchup on your burger, you heathen! grin

In all seriousness, I hope you find the answers to all of those questions you have listed above. I'm a believer in Christ, however, I do support your "free will" not to believe. Free will is an essential part of love.


GO NOLES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Re: Do you have any opinions that are contrary to social norms? [Re: Shaw] #2022912
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Originally Posted By: perchjerker
Seek help Booger, you are one sick and twisted puppy! What brand of sauce? grin


Booger's a Florida State fan. Probably likes his crab legs hot too. grin


What kinda hot are you implying? As in the stolen kinda hot or hot out of the steamer? Just because I'm blessed to be an FSU fan, it does not imply that I will get arrested for "hot" crab legs, there by turning into an Auburn fan. Geez! I know that Gus recruits straight from the pages of those little "look who's locked up now" papers you see at the convenience stores. rofl But surely they don't recruit fans that way either. How many alumni could Auburn possibly have?

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Re: Do you have any opinions that are contrary to social norms? [Re: AUstan23] #2022947
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Originally Posted By: AUstan23
I'm agnostic. That seems pretty abnormal at least around here.


I honestly believe that a vast majority of people who call themselves Christians are actually agnostics and they just don't know it or won't admit it. I believe this because if people truly believed and had faith in God they would live their lives differently.

John Calvin puts forward a very simple reason why love is the greatest gift: “Because faith and hope are our own: love is diffused among others.” In other words, faith and hope benefit the possessor, but love always benefits another. In John 13:34–35 Jesus says, “A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.” Love always requires an “other” as an object; love cannot remain within itself, and that is part of what makes love the greatest gift.

Love is core to God’s character and central to the Christian life. The law of Christ is to love God and love others. Love infuses all that God does and should infuse all that we do. “Love never fails ” (1 Corinthians 13:8), and it will never cease. Because of this, love is greater than even hope and faith.


https://www.gotquestions.org/the-greatest-of-these-is-love.html

According to Jesus loving your fellow man, along with loving God is the core of the Christian religion, yet it is the hardest command for people who call themselves Christians to actually follow.

Unfortunately, when I see most Christians I don't see that love that Jesus talks about. And even more unfortunately, when folks who aren't Christians see most Christians, they don't see it either. Yet true Agape Love has the power to change the World.

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Originally Posted By: AUstan23
I'm agnostic. That seems pretty abnormal at least around here.


I honestly believe that a vast majority of people who call themselves Christians are actually agnostics and they just don't know it or won't admit it. I believe this because if people truly believed and had faith in God they would live their lives differently.

John Calvin puts forward a very simple reason why love is the greatest gift: “Because faith and hope are our own: love is diffused among others.” In other words, faith and hope benefit the possessor, but love always benefits another. In John 13:34–35 Jesus says, “A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.” Love always requires an “other” as an object; love cannot remain within itself, and that is part of what makes love the greatest gift.

Love is core to God’s character and central to the Christian life. The law of Christ is to love God and love others. Love infuses all that God does and should infuse all that we do. “Love never fails ” (1 Corinthians 13:8), and it will never cease. Because of this, love is greater than even hope and faith.


https://www.gotquestions.org/the-greatest-of-these-is-love.html

According to Jesus loving your fellow man, along with loving God is the core of the Christian religion, yet it is the hardest command for people who call themselves Christians to actually follow.

Unfortunately, when I see most Christians I don't see that love that Jesus talks about. And even more unfortunately, when folks who aren't Christians see most Christians, they don't see it either. Yet true Agape Love has the power to change the World.


Completely agree


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Originally Posted By: extreme heights hunter
If only we had a religious forum


I know right. Things get pretty deep on here sometimes.


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I'm no biblical expert either, but I do have an MDiv so maybe I know more than the average person. I'll try to respond to everything you said; it does seem like you want a response, and you are a good Auburn man and I want you to know what I think about each point you posted. So here goes.

>>>>Here while I'm at it I'll really ruffle some feathers. I'll preface by saying I'm not a biblical expert or really an expert in anything for that matter. Just an average guy that tries to be objective. Feel free to Google some of this stuff (you prolly won't)

December 25th has nothing to do with Jesus's birthday. It has to do with the winter solstice and incorporates a lot of different traditions of different festivals from different cultures (Yule, etc.)<<<<

I believe you to 100% right on this issue. No scholar would disagree with you, and Christmas is a man-made holiday. I believe that Christ has given us the freedom to do such things and celebrate it with my family. Many Christians choose not to. Its up to you.

>>>I don't think man was made from blowing life into dirt and woman was made by taking a man's rib. I also don't think man "fell" when Eve ate an Apple after talking to a snake. Did adam and eve have a bunch of kids that reproduced to have a bunch of kids? Is that not incest? How does that work genetically? <<<

The Creation Story is one that causes vast differences of opinions among Christians. The disagreements involve how much of the story is to be taken literally and how much should we understand as metaphor. The key part that I don't believe can be denied by a Christian is that God made man in His image. Exactly what that means will be a constant debate, but no other creature has this distinction, and that is what makes human life precious and distinct from all other life.

DNA studies show that all people descend from one woman. I am not qualified to evaluate that work, but I find it interesting that science has reached such a conclusion. While their work does not prove the Biblical account is true, it does show that it is possible to fit our existence into the Creation Story.

And yes, there can be no doubt a lot of incest took place, no matter how you believe. There was no law from God against it until the time of Moses. Even Abraham married his half-sister.

>>>I don't think Noah's ark is a true story. It sounds eerily similar in many ways to the flood in the epic of Gilgamesh. And again, if everyone is dead except Noah and his few family helpers, how do they repopulate the earth? How do the animals repopulate the earth? Genetic variability is a problem again.<<<

That many other cultures have a written or oral tradition of a great flood is evidence to many that it actually happened. It would be expected that the accounts of it would become corrupted over time, but the most likely reason the different accounts exist is because they are rooted in truth.

In the Biblical account, the flood brought about some kind of fundamental change in the earth. Things were totally different after it. No longer did men live 900 years. The Bible depicts a much different world, and I don't believe modern researchers have ever been able to grasp that change.

>>>I don't think the earth is 6,000-10,000 years old. I think the dinosaurs walked on the earth (can't believe I even have to bring that up). I don't think dinosaurs and people and whitetails were all walking around together due to stratigraphic record.<<<<

I tend to agree with you, but many Christians will not. I don't think its necessary to believe that there were 24 hour days before the creation of the sun. It may have happened that way, but if it did, then there is something we don't understand about it at all. I don't see it as a test of faith.

>>>I think Christianity/Jesus share a lot of similarities with other religions and their messiahs/teachers. Some pre-date Jesus, some don't. They all seem to be attempts to explain our reality and develop what the people at the time thought would be closer to a just society.<<<

Indeed it does, but here is the important message of the Bible - the message of the gospel. The gospel message is that the Son of God became a Man and died on a cross for our sin, was buried, and rose again the third day. This is the central message, and this is the one a person must decide to believe or not believe. Did Jesus really arise from the dead? If He did, that proves Who He is. It makes every other miracle believable, and it validates the truth of Scripture. To truly believe it is a life changing moment, for how could one truly believe it and not submit to Christ as Lord and Savior?


And if it didn't happen, then Jesus is no different than any other man who walked the earth. The gospel is the key message; I'd urge anyone searching for answers to focus on it.

>>>I think indoctrination at an early age along with repetition is an extremely powerful tool to get people to think a certain way. I also think all religions divide people up and pit them against each other, each claiming to be the Truth, the Way, the Light.<<<

No doubt the devil tries to counterfeit everything God has done. It is the truth of the gospel that separates Christianity from everything else. I went thru a time when I was unsure of that too, but I am thankful that Jesus saved me!

A blessed day to all!

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