If youll go just a little to the side of center on the breast bone its kinda like soft catalidge, u doit enoughan ur blade will just find the right spot ever time. U can do a bunch of other stuf if you want but none are as quick as this bustin pelvis with loppin shears with the rounded side down against the bladder and cut the 2 upper pieces of pubic bone then spread the legs and stand on both of them grab it by the tail and pull up hard an fast and it will snap the entire pelvis then you can clean out the body cavity as u see fit. Fyi it is infinitely easier to gut deer on the ground and then hangem up to quarter, back leg tips should be at least waist high off the ground if its hangin in a tree an not somewhere u can close it up. Guttin them hangen up is just aggravatin to me now.