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Re: Baiting now Legal? [Re: Clem] #2043658
03/01/17 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted By: Clem
Oh. Sorry. I figured you knew but wasn't sure. Others probably didn't know, though.





We dont rent pigs
Re: Baiting now Legal? [Re: pcamper] #2043718
03/01/17 09:54 AM
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They should have legalized this a long time ago. If I gotta pay $15 then I'll pay it. It's just 15$.

Re: Baiting now Legal? [Re: pcamper] #2043780
03/01/17 10:39 AM
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I just read HB 43, I see no mention of 15 dollar fee

Re: Baiting now Legal? [Re: pcamper] #2043796
03/01/17 10:55 AM
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I see it in HB 184,which is not the one that passed

Re: Baiting now Legal? [Re: pcamper] #2043804
03/01/17 11:03 AM
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The greatest benefit to legalizing corn won't be killing more deer. The #1 benefit will be that our game wardens can spend their time dealing with trespassers, thieves, poachers, and night hunters instead of spending half their time hiding out waiting for someone to climb a tree next to a pile of corn.

I have long believed that if you don't have the resources or ability to properly enforce a law, then it shouldn't be a law at all. Unenforced laws promote a lack of respect for the law. It leads to a society where people only follow the laws they agree with. Which is basically what hunting in Alabama has become. There is very little respect for game laws in this state because the state has over-regulated hunting. You shouldn't need to memorize a 45 page book to hunt and fish in this state. Get rid of the petty laws that are impossible to enforce and then strictly enforce the most essential game laws with the resources you do have.

Re: Baiting now Legal? [Re: pcamper] #2043807
03/01/17 11:03 AM
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I stand corrected hb184 is in the Senate now,it is bait privledge license, obtained in the same manner as. a hunting license. People exempt from purchasing hunting license will not be exempt from bait license

Re: Baiting now Legal? [Re: pcamper] #2043812
03/01/17 11:08 AM
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Senate has a bill SB189, that does not include the not on the ground language or the 15 dollar license

Re: Baiting now Legal? [Re: pcamper] #2043820
03/01/17 11:13 AM
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I see a potential problem with HB184 , they left baited field crossed out in 9-11-245

Re: Baiting now Legal? [Re: ALclearcut] #2043824
03/01/17 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted By: ALclearcut
The greatest benefit to legalizing corn won't be killing more deer. The #1 benefit will be that our game wardens can spend their time dealing with trespassers, thieves, poachers, and night hunters instead of spending half their time hiding out waiting for someone to climb a tree next to a pile of corn.


This is what game wardens in both AL & FL should be doing all along. Go after the fire hunter and outlaw not the regular guy that follows rules and already pays too much in fees to hunt. There is something wrong when regular guys that are law abiding are made to feel like criminals and made to pay more fees.

Re: Baiting now Legal? [Re: ALclearcut] #2043840
03/01/17 11:29 AM
03/01/17 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted By: ALclearcut
The greatest benefit to legalizing corn won't be killing more deer. The #1 benefit will be that our game wardens can spend their time dealing with trespassers, thieves, poachers, and night hunters instead of spending half their time hiding out waiting for someone to climb a tree next to a pile of corn.



Disagree - there was always good reason and good wisdom in the law that banned hunting deer over bait.

And game wardens enforcing that law is a good thing imo.

The bs 100 yard rule was *designed* to be the prelude for the bill that is pending now and it is all bs imo.

Bad for the sport and bad for neighbors.
It is going to be battle of the feeders and battle of the corn piles and even such battles RIGHT ON PROPERTY LINES!

This is bad, bad, bad.


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Re: Baiting now Legal? [Re: WmHunter] #2043855
03/01/17 11:41 AM
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People are feeding now.

It has been going on for years. It is not illegal to feed deer during season.

I wont change much at all.


Originally Posted By: WmHunter
Originally Posted By: ALclearcut
The greatest benefit to legalizing corn won't be killing more deer. The #1 benefit will be that our game wardens can spend their time dealing with trespassers, thieves, poachers, and night hunters instead of spending half their time hiding out waiting for someone to climb a tree next to a pile of corn.



Disagree - there was always good reason and good wisdom in the law that banned hunting deer over bait.

And game wardens enforcing that law is a good thing imo.

The bs 100 yard rule was *designed* to be the prelude for the bill that is pending now and it is all bs imo.

Bad for the sport and bad for neighbors.
It is going to be battle of the feeders and battle of the corn piles and even such battles RIGHT ON PROPERTY LINES!

This is bad, bad, bad.

Re: Baiting now Legal? [Re: pcamper] #2043875
03/01/17 11:57 AM
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My $.02 which ain't worth $.02 is I don't care. As Hogwild said, I too am on a lot of properties and there is a tremendous amount already out there. IF last year my neighbor would have had 1 or 10 feeders out he was hunting over, I wouldn't have given it a second thought. Doesn't fit into my type of hunting but if chose that route it wouldn't bother me. I have and will continue to plant the corn I hunt over. But there is at the very least 3 facts y'all can take to the bank already pointed out: there is already a tremendous amount of corn already used, it is going to cause some major turmoil in some clubs and neighbors, and the $15 is a tax.

Re: Baiting now Legal? [Re: pcamper] #2043893
03/01/17 12:08 PM
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I can care least if any of y'all or any of my neighbors is hunting over a mountain of corn 20 yards away. It's not a guaranteed success. And it's their land and their choice on what to do. They can shoot them at night for all I care if it's on their land.

Re: Baiting now Legal? [Re: ColeT] #2043911
03/01/17 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted By: ColeT
I can care least if any of y'all or any of my neighbors is hunting over a mountain of corn 20 yards away. It's not a guaranteed success. And it's their land and their choice on what to do. They can shoot them at night for all I care if it's on their land.


Now I ain't going THAT far!!! grin

Re: Baiting now Legal? [Re: ALclearcut] #2043927
03/01/17 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted By: ALclearcut
The greatest benefit to legalizing corn won't be killing more deer. The #1 benefit will be that our game wardens can spend their time dealing with trespassers, thieves, poachers, and night hunters instead of spending half their time hiding out waiting for someone to climb a tree next to a pile of corn.

I have long believed that if you don't have the resources or ability to properly enforce a law, then it shouldn't be a law at all. Unenforced laws promote a lack of respect for the law. It leads to a society where people only follow the laws they agree with. Which is basically what hunting in Alabama has become. There is very little respect for game laws in this state because the state has over-regulated hunting. You shouldn't need to memorize a 45 page book to hunt and fish in this state. Get rid of the petty laws that are impossible to enforce and then strictly enforce the most essential game laws with the resources you do have.


Well said

Re: Baiting now Legal? [Re: centralala] #2043995
03/01/17 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted By: centralala
Originally Posted By: ColeT
I can care least if any of y'all or any of my neighbors is hunting over a mountain of corn 20 yards away. It's not a guaranteed success. And it's their land and their choice on what to do. They can shoot them at night for all I care if it's on their land.


Now I ain't going THAT far!!! grin

Me neither. I gotta draw a line somewhere. It may be their land but it ain't their deer.

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Re: Baiting now Legal? [Re: Out back] #2044009
03/01/17 01:43 PM
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People putting out corn piles or feeders next to or near someone else's property is CERTAIN to cause conflict. SERIOUS conflict.

If they are going to pass this redneck backwoods goober lazy gay "hunter" bill they need to include a prohibition of any bait or feeder within 200 yards of a property line.


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Re: Baiting now Legal? [Re: pcamper] #2044015
03/01/17 01:45 PM
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And then corn prices will double or triple

Re: Baiting now Legal? [Re: pcamper] #2044023
03/01/17 01:47 PM
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The redneck lazy gay goober bill ...
I like it! That's much more fitting.
I wonder if we can get the existing senate bill renamed.

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Re: Baiting now Legal? [Re: pcamper] #2044060
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I'm hunting over white oaks so I don't give a....

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