The school does have security. If I'm not mistaken, the head of security is a retired US Marshal.

You realize that's not in the constitution, right?

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..."

They're not making a law for the church, they're proposing a private (or public?) entity to enforce laws of the state.

Y'all correct me if I'm wrong, but if a LEO covers up or doesn't properly report criminal activity, that in itself is a crime.

There are drugs in high schools all over. Briarwood school is no different and most likely worse than many as students often come from families with money...and if kids have money, well they have the ability to buy drugs way above weed. Plus our culture these days is ripe with drug use.

I'm sure Briarwood and most schools don't want to advertise drug problems and would rather it be quietly dealt with. That doesn't mean covering it up or not enforcing the law. To suggest that is the real motive is pure negativity and speculation. To suggest the police force is only to cover up drugs at the school campus is simply wrong.

I'm sure there are some Briarwood people at the school and church that would cover things up because image is their idol. But I certainly don't see that coming from our pastor, staff, elders and deacons.

The only crimes in Alabama that LEOs are mandated to report are Child Abuse and child victimization crimes and Domestic Violence. The child victimization crimes are mandated to be reported to DHR and Alabama law mandates LEOs to do an incident report on all domestic violence incident complaints. Yes, it would be a criminal act to knowingly and intentionally cover up a crime, for LEOs or anyone else.

I got no problem with it.
It's just the next step for a big church/school.
Our church is much smaller and has security monitoring team.

Libs are going to Lib, nothing new here.
They are all smarter and enlightened than us backward Southerners and Republicans.

I am sure he will find many to agree with him over coffee at Starbucks this a.m. or while he is having his gluten free khale kabobs at Whole this afternoon.

Ya that must be it. Spot on assessment.
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Who did you vote for for President the last two elections?

they should be able to do it if they want to. Why they would want to, I do not know.. Sounds expensive.

As for the drug problems. Maybe they are worse than they were 10 years ago when I went there. What I can tell you, is ten years ago they were not bad compared to oak mountain, Pelham, or Chelsea. Being part of the popular crowd, I can only recall seeing weed a time or two at parties. I knew of only 2 people out of 150 in the grade that smoked it regularly. I can think of a group of 4 or 5 guys that tried coke. That was a "wow" type thing, because no one else had ever seen it. Has it changed? Possibly. Whether it has or not, they will certainly recieve more criticism when things do happen, because they are a private Christian school. Oak mountain and mountain brook used to be the worst in the over the mountain area. Students called oak mountain, "coke" mountain.

As to the money aspect, all the over the mountain schools are filled with the same upper middle class and upper class make up.

Romney and was sick on Election Day this most recent election so I didn't vote.
You satisfied?

Unfortunately, this is what many people have been brainwashed in the government education to believe. The liberal dominated school systems twist the words in this direction to suit their point of view.

I don't know which point you're advocating, but the establishment clause is in the constitution. Part of the first amendment.

That doesn't have anything to do with mandating a separation of church and state. It just mandates freedom of religion.

Not really I'm never satisfied but that does tell me a lot. Mostly about how defensive you are about it.

Also was not aware we had so many constitutional scholars on here! Oh to be so young and knowledgeable.

My church ain't.

Doesnt matter to me one way or the other but since its private property what does having their own police dept give them over having their own security dept?
If its training and APOST they can do that without being a police dept.
Unless they are wanting to do traffic enforcement etc around their area like university police do.

Let em take it on. If they are trying to cover up when their kids get busted w drugs then that's their deal I guess. In my experience the private school kids get and do the more expensive drugs. You could walk into any HS in any state and find pot. You could walk into any of the private schools in the country and find coke or molly. Just how things are. I agree w Jawbone, they won't fix what they are trying to fix.

I will note that I would like to see more of this. Instead of putting city or county cops on a campus, I'd like to see the schools handle their security on their own. That's a discussion for another day though.. don't feel like typing a novel.

When they start paying for required training, they will regret it.

I miss the Cowboy Church in Prosper, TX. There's a reason it's for cowboy's, Everyone in attendance is packing heat.