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Re: Fines for missing club work days
[Re: johndeere5036]
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05/21/17 02:53 PM
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teamduckdown
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I would make to where if you missed a day it would take off a week in the rut. Some people have money and will pay whatever it is so that's my thoughts you take away there best time of the ye to hunt then maybe they will show Pretty sure that would just cause issues in filling membership. Most clubs have a hard enough time keeping a full membership as it is.
Turkeys be damned.
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Re: Fines for missing club work days
[Re: extreme heights hunter]
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05/21/17 02:55 PM
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Take 5 days of hunting off their season per missed work day starting from the end of the season. This is what we do. People will pay attention when you tell them they can't hunt opening day of any season or the rut. We no longer have problems. If they have a conflict, we have a list of things to do that the member must sign off on with secondary dates.
There are two rules for success: 1. Never tell everything you know.
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Re: Fines for missing club work days
[Re: Fuzzy_Bunny]
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05/21/17 03:35 PM
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So for all you who charge a fine for missing a work day; what do you do about the ones who show up and do nothing but stand around, drink beer, and watch everybody else work? Stop It! Just stop it now! Every job needs a supervisor..
Life is a journey. Make sure and bring plenty of Beer.
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Re: Fines for missing club work days
[Re: bambam32]
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05/21/17 03:37 PM
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Rmart30
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So for all you who charge a fine for missing a work day; what do you do about the ones who show up and do nothing but stand around, drink beer, and watch everybody else work? Assign them a particular task to do so it cant be skipped and not noticed. Ask them in front of the other members why they didnt complete it when everyone else did their part. We are kicking around the idea of incentivizing participation in club work days. You miss, you pay. Can anyone share any lessons learned from implementing a program like this? How was it structured?
$100 for each day missed. No hunt until paid. If too many just pay the fine and expect the others to do it all go up on dues to cover it and give the ones who work a break on them.
Ethical behavior is doing the right thing when no one else is watching - even when doing the wrong thing is legal. Aldo Leopold .. (except when it comes to trailer tags)
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Re: Fines for missing club work days
[Re: bambam32]
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05/21/17 04:17 PM
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I'm in the crowd that makes work days There's always some that's gonna miss And stroke a check and we give that money To the guys who bring tractors for there fuel And maintenance.
Every day's a gift !
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Re: Fines for missing club work days
[Re: extreme heights hunter]
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05/21/17 04:22 PM
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Take 5 days of hunting off their season per missed work day starting from the end of the season. This is the best idea I have heard in a while.
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Re: Fines for missing club work days
[Re: jaredhunts]
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05/21/17 05:01 PM
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Charge enough in the membership fee to hire someone out to do all the labor. I would think that most people join clubs to hunt and have a good time. Not to work. 100 bucks for a missed day is fair I suppose and then it really depends on what your membership fee is. Jaredhunts, so you're for hiring the needed work done? But have you thought that SOMEONE from the hunting club has to be there with the hired workers to show them what needs to be done and where as no one knows the club food plots, stand locations, etc... better than the club members!! But hey, as long as it's not you Jarendhunts that HAS to be there, huh? Let someone else do it!! Jaredhunts, you ARE A CONSUMER!! You profit off the backs of others. Let the other guys do the work and put up the shooting houses. Let the other members trim shooting lanes! Ol' Jared will be there every weekend of deer season and certainly won't miss the rut, will ya? I'm that 10% that works his ass off and the the other 90% of members benefit off my and some other members' labor and it's guys like you I would not have in my hunting club. Sorry, this is a hot button for me.
Last edited by Antlerfluke; 05/21/17 05:04 PM.
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Re: Fines for missing club work days
[Re: bambam32]
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05/21/17 05:14 PM
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There are some tractor guys in my last year's club and we did a ton of work. Way too many tractor hours put in and labor on top of that!!! We had to beg the other members to come and they couldn't as they go to the bch every weekend. Why do the tractor guys have the responsibility of planting food plots on their shoulders? What?!?!? Just because we own a tractor, it should be our responsibility to do most all the work?!?!? The planting? You guys without tractors have no clue how expensive it is to own a tractor. Just because a member owns a tractor doesn't mean additional responsibilities should be placed on him. Hire the planting done and make every member pay equally for the planting. That's my opinion.
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Re: Fines for missing club work days
[Re: Antlerfluke]
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05/21/17 05:17 PM
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Charge enough in the membership fee to hire someone out to do all the labor. I would think that most people join clubs to hunt and have a good time. Not to work. 100 bucks for a missed day is fair I suppose and then it really depends on what your membership fee is. Jaredhunts, so you're for hiring the needed work done? But have you thought that SOMEONE from the hunting club has to be there with the hired workers to show them what needs to be done and where as no one knows the club food plots, stand locations, etc... better than the club members!! But hey, as long as it's not you Jarendhunts that HAS to be there, huh? Let someone else do it!! Jaredhunts, you ARE A CONSUMER!! You profit off the backs of others. Let the other guys do the work and put up the shooting houses. Let the other members trim shooting lanes! Ol' Jared will be there every weekend of deer season and certainly won't miss the rut, will ya? I'm that 10% that works his ass off and the the other 90% of members benefit off my and some other members' labor and it's guys like you I would not have in my hunting club. Sorry, this is a hot button for me. Im pretty sure he wasn't saying he would prefer to hire the help done. I think he was saying to charge enough to cover the cost of hired help if the member was unable to show up for a workday. As far as someone having to be there to show the "Help" around, there are going to be members that do make the work day...
Turkeys be damned.
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Re: Fines for missing club work days
[Re: bambam32]
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05/21/17 05:20 PM
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And another reason to get permission from private land owners instead of joining a club.
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Re: Fines for missing club work days
[Re: bambam32]
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05/21/17 05:52 PM
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Gotta make the fines on par with the dues.
I was in a club and our dues were $600. You had to make 3/5 work days. Each one you missed was $100. We had almost no missed days.
Club I'm in now the dues are like 1800. You have to make 3 of the workdays (out of the 4 or 5 schedule). Each one missed is (was) $50. Lots of people missed, including myself. My gas up there and back was $30. We've now bumped it up to $100, but honestly it should probably be $200 to really get everyone's attention.
Last edited by JUSTIN37HUNT; 05/21/17 05:54 PM.
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Re: Fines for missing club work days
[Re: CatHeadBiscuit]
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05/22/17 02:15 AM
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And another reason to get permission from private land owners instead of joining a club. Exact reason I'm not in a club. If I can't pull my own weight I don't want to depend on others. And if they can't, I'm dang sure not letting them benefit from my work.
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Re: Fines for missing club work days
[Re: Atoler]
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05/22/17 02:22 AM
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Hire the planting done and make every member pay equally for the planting. That's my opinion. So you jump all over Jared, then suggest the same thing he did..... I know right and he accused of him of not doing any work and I'm pretty sure Jared plants food plots for hunting clubs.
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Re: Fines for missing club work days
[Re: CatHeadBiscuit]
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05/22/17 04:11 AM
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And another reason to get permission from private land owners instead of joining a club.
This, definitely. The f'king drama and bullchit isn't worth it. The last club I was in had good people and i enjoyed it. Our kids were little then and involved in things on the weekends, which precluded me from attending our camp work weekends. I would have enjoyed going to work but was not going to miss our kids' events. The kids were and still are more important. So I wrote a check, gladly, and apologized for not making it to all of them. I did make it to a couple when there were no conflicts. As for hiring the labor, that wouldn't bother me. What would bother me would be the one or two "He ain't doing it right!" jackwagons who would BITCH INCESSANTLY all year about the road not being done right, the plot not being turned-planted-packed right and didn't grow well -- even if there was a drought or flood or chitty soils -- and they'd never STFU about it because the guy didn't do it like they would have done. These would be the same people who bitch about everything anyway, though, so that would only be yet another thing for them to be pissy about.
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Re: Fines for missing club work days
[Re: bambam32]
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05/22/17 04:53 AM
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We require 3 work days at our club and fine $100/day for each day missed. I know I had to pay one day fine a couple of years ago when I just couldn't make all three days.
Dr. B
AKA: “Dr. B” Aldeer #121 8-3-2000 Proud alum of AUM, UAB, and UA Member of Team 10 Point 2023-2024 ALdeer Deer Contest Winners
Glennis Jerome "Jerry" Harris 1938-2017 UGA Class of 1960 BS/MS Forestry LTJG, USNR
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Re: Fines for missing club work days
[Re: Antlerfluke]
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05/22/17 04:56 AM
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Hire the planting done and make every member pay equally for the planting. That's my opinion. We've started to look at this option. I like it. Dr. B
AKA: “Dr. B” Aldeer #121 8-3-2000 Proud alum of AUM, UAB, and UA Member of Team 10 Point 2023-2024 ALdeer Deer Contest Winners
Glennis Jerome "Jerry" Harris 1938-2017 UGA Class of 1960 BS/MS Forestry LTJG, USNR
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