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Re: Why so protective of Malzahn??? [Re: hunterbuck] #220320
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Originally Posted By: hunterbuck
FFP...maybe the defense just gets worn slam out from being on the field the entire game. Let's face it, whether Gus' offense is clicking at it's best or falling on its face, the defense is on the field for practically the entire game. Quick strike, feast or famine offenses affect their own defense negatively either way, IMO.


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Re: Why so protective of Malzahn??? [Re: 3toe] #220321
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Originally Posted By: 3toe
I will have to say his offense didn't do to bad in the Iron Bowl last year. Dammit. frown


Dammit X2! smile I hope Bama fares much better this year.


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Re: Why so protective of Malzahn??? [Re: hunterbuck] #220326
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Hunterbuck prettymuch summed it up. Unless you have a Superman like Newton or Tebow at qb that can convert that third and 3-4 with his legs or his arm and keep the chains moving, the type of offense that Malzahn or Meyer or anybody else that doesn't play power football usually doesn't work well in the SEC for more than a season or so.

I kinda like Gus and he comes up with some really innovative stuff. I think he could probably dominate in another conference. The facts are though; since he's been at auburn his teams average somewhere around 14-17 points a game in the sec without Cam. If they had gotten Russell Wilson it may have been a different story this season. It's hard to depend on an offense that requires a once in a lifetime quarterback to really be effective in this league though.

Re: Why so protective of Malzahn??? [Re: BrentM] #220333
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Originally Posted By: BrentM
Hunterbuck prettymuch summed it up. Unless you have a Superman like Newton or Tebow at qb that can convert that third and 3-4 with his legs or his arm and keep the chains moving, the type of offense that Malzahn or Meyer or anybody else that doesn't play power football usually doesn't work well in the SEC for more than a season or so.

I kinda like Gus and he comes up with some really innovative stuff. I think he could probably dominate in another conference. The facts are though; since he's been at auburn his teams average somewhere around 14-17 points a game in the sec without Cam. If they had gotten Russell Wilson it may have been a different story this season. It's hard to depend on an offense that requires a once in a lifetime quarterback to really be effective in this league though.


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That was the premise of my "why the spread will not last in the SEC" thread from 3 years or so ago...when Franklin was hired.


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Re: Why so protective of Malzahn??? [Re: Skullworks] #220338
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Originally Posted By: Skullworks
Originally Posted By: 3toe
I will have to say his offense didn't do to bad in the Iron Bowl last year. Dammit. frown


Dammit X2! smile I hope Bama fares much better this year.


And they tell us we live too much in the past Skully. I'd have to say his current offense is getting their arse handed to them right now.


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Re: Why so protective of Malzahn??? [Re: hunterbuck] #220346
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Wishbone, fun-n-gun, spread...all had fleeting glory in the SEC. Teams always come back to the tried and true pro-set eventually, though.


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Re: Why so protective of Malzahn??? [Re: hunterbuck] #220351
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All you experts on all things AU missed your calling. They pay big money to people with that kind of analytical skills.


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Re: Why so protective of Malzahn??? [Re: hunterbuck] #220417
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Those who have to prepare defenses to stop his offenses may have the best perpective and, if I remember correctly, most like defensive legend Monte Kiffen have been impressed with his offenses and his play calling. Of course, his offense is probably more dependent on good quarterback play than what most college offenses are, and he just aint getting that this year.


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Re: Why so protective of Malzahn??? [Re: eskimo270] #220421
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Originally Posted By: eskimo270
his offense is probably more dependent on good quarterback play .


I think it is the O-line that is the biggest weakness. They can't open holes from the rushing game and can't keep from allowing sacks. All around they are dismal.

Re: Why so protective of Malzahn??? [Re: hunterbuck] #220426
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Look how well the receivers have developed, too. We got one.


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Re: Why so protective of Malzahn??? [Re: hunterbuck] #220454
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GM would look better if he could teach his QBs to step up into the pocket...

Re: Why so protective of Malzahn??? [Re: hunterbuck] #220813
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With the lack of size/experience of the Offensive line, a 'new' QB......and..... with what I feel is a modified scheme to try and help keep the Defense off the field for 80% of the game; I am not surprised at all with the Offensive output.

Disappointed, yes.

Surprised, no.

Re: Why so protective of Malzahn??? [Re: Hogwild] #221327
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Malzahn to UNC...the question, does he announce before the Iron Bowl?


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Re: Why so protective of Malzahn??? [Re: hunterbuck] #221339
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Might as well announce it and start his recruiting.

Him being there for Bama's curb-stomping win won't make much of a difference.


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Re: Why so protective of Malzahn??? [Re: hunterbuck] #221347
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His playcalling this year has been suspect at best. I wish him well if he leaves but I for one am ready for a pro style offense and not that gimmicky shite that he runs. While it was very successful last year with Cam, it has been god awful against SEC defenses. He needs to be in the Big 12 where they have no defense at all. I don't agree that his offense has been figured out rather it takes a complete offense to run it. OL, receivers, TE, and a very mobile QB. It's very hard to have that kind of offense every year. And this year, the offense is lacking at every position except RB and TE and Blake when he's healthy.


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Re: Why so protective of Malzahn??? [Re: hunterbuck] #221353
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I'm not concerned if he leaves. It is only a matter of time. However, i do have a problem with coaches leaving early. They are hired to coach 12-13 games. The least they can do is honor their commitment. They have until February to recruit.

Re: Why so protective of Malzahn??? [Re: hunterbuck] #221363
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I agree. No announcement should be made until after the last game, whether it's the iron bowl or bowl game. He better accept any job offer he gets before the Bama game cause his stock will definetly drop after that one!! I doubt they cross mid-field all game!!

But all kidding aside, Auburn has simply been beaten by better teams. It was a brutal schedule and it is showing. He didn't have much to work with but he could have at least made a showing in some of the losses. I think he is getting handcuffed by a shitty defense and a HC who being defensive minded wants to slow the game down.


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Re: Why so protective of Malzahn??? [Re: hunterbuck] #221396
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Re: Why so protective of Malzahn??? [Re: hunterbuck] #221405
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Seriously, Auburn doesn't just fire a coach because Finebaum wants them to.

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Originally Posted By: Shuter II
Seriously, Auburn doesn't just fire a coach because Finebaum wants them to.


Huh?


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