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Re: Gun in boat ?
#22575
05/25/10 03:03 PM
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jawbone
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I'm pretty sure it was but the statute of limitations has run out.
Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
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Re: Gun in boat ?
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05/25/10 03:13 PM
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Somebody find a legal definition of "navigable public waterway" otherwise known as a "navigable waterway".
I've asked everyone I can find with a badge and nobody has ever been able to provide me with a definition that appears to be a legal definition.
The question is what about creeks that cross private property. Landowner owns both banks and the creek bottom. You can float the creek but where logjams are in the creek you have to get out and either drag across them or portage around them. Are you trespassing when you get out of the boat? The waterway isn't navigable when the boat won't float any more.
I apologize if I have hijacked this thread. I look forward to your responses.
P.S. To address the question at hand. Carry a gun in the boat if you so desire. Shoot snakes (with or without feet) if the need arises and deal with the consequences.
You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think.
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Re: Gun in boat ?
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05/25/10 04:26 PM
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Originally posted by Driveby: Originally posted by drtrdspt:
[b] THere are glitches to that as well Clem. You can't do it where the shore line is private property unless you have the property owners permission.  [/b]We were talking about drift hunting squirrels. If you shoot a squirrel and he falls on someone elses property you have to "trespass" on that persons property to recover him. Thats the glitch about drift hunting squirrels. :p
I believe in the free speech that liberals used to believe in, the economic freedom that conservatives used to believe in, and the personal freedom that America used to believe in.
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Re: Gun in boat ?
#22578
05/25/10 04:53 PM
05/25/10 04:53 PM
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BhamFred
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unless the skwerl is flying like a duck it would be illegal to shoot said skwerl w/o landowner permission. The tree is on someones property, so is the skwerl.
troy
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
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Re: Gun in boat ?
#22579
05/25/10 05:06 PM
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Round ‘bout there
Clem
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unless the skwerl is flying like a duck it would be illegal to shoot said skwerl w/o landowner permission. The tree is on someones property, so is the skwerl.
Exactly.
So you'd be a dirty poacher along with a no-good trespasser.
Carry a gun in the boat if you so desire. Shoot snakes (with or without feet) if the need arises and deal with the consequences.
We will continue to do so, as has been done for a long time.
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
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Re: Gun in boat ?
#22580
05/25/10 06:26 PM
05/25/10 06:26 PM
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Central Alabama
Yelp softly
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Originally posted by huntnfish2:
Somebody find a legal definition of "navigable public waterway" otherwise known as a "navigable waterway".
I've asked everyone I can find with a badge and nobody has ever been able to provide me with a definition that appears to be a legal definition.
The question is what about creeks that cross private property. Landowner owns both banks and the creek bottom. You can float the creek but where logjams are in the creek you have to get out and either drag across them or portage around them. Are you trespassing when you get out of the boat? The waterway isn't navigable when the boat won't float any more.
I apologize if I have hijacked this thread. I look forward to your responses.
P.S. To address the question at hand. Carry a gun in the boat if you so desire. Shoot snakes (with or without feet) if the need arises and deal with the consequences. This really needs its own thread. I would like to get some "educated" opinions on this question. I was reading a thread from another state about flyfishing. The question gets even murkier when someone is wade fishing.
"When there was no fowl, we ate crawdad, when there was no crawdad, we ate sand."
"YOU ATE SAND!" - Raising Arizona
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Re: Gun in boat ?
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05/26/10 04:45 AM
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Little Foot
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Originally posted by huntnfish2:
Shoot snakes (with or without feet) if the need arises and deal with the consequences. [/QB] And what would the consequences be? According to this thread and what I have been told, there would be NO consequences if I shot a snake from the boat.
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Re: Gun in boat ?
#22583
05/26/10 05:49 AM
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drtrdspt
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Originally posted by Little Foot: Originally posted by huntnfish2:
Shoot snakes (with or without feet) if the need arises and deal with the consequences. Dam littlefoot, It would depend on where you was at when you shot him and your proximity to others at the time. IF you were in the limits of a city that had a no shooting ordinance you could get a ticket for discharging a fire arm in the city limits. If other people were in the area you could get a ticket for reckless endangerment. No one around, not in city limits, fire away, killum all.
I believe in the free speech that liberals used to believe in, the economic freedom that conservatives used to believe in, and the personal freedom that America used to believe in.
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Re: Gun in boat ?
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05/26/10 07:02 AM
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Round ‘bout there
Clem
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Defining navigable waters is a constant question for canoers and kayakers as well.
Here is some info from the American Whitewater Association:
http://www.americanwhitewater.org/content/Wiki/access:al
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
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Re: Gun in boat ?
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05/26/10 08:49 AM
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Originally posted by BhamFred:
unless the skwerl is flying like a duck it would be illegal to shoot said skwerl w/o landowner permission. The tree is on someones property, so is the skwerl.
troy hold on, what if said skwerl is in a tree that hangs over the water, the skwerl is over the water and will land in it but the tree is on someone's property? Or, what if the tree's base goes into the water? Could I shoot the skwerl then 
"The aggies are going to destroy bama"
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Re: Gun in boat ?
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05/26/10 10:59 AM
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colbert county
cartervj
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Each waterway is different, TVA owns a lot of land around larger streams and the TN river. Mostly the land is flood plane.
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Re: Gun in boat ?
#22589
05/26/10 12:20 PM
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Round ‘bout there
Clem
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Owner's property stops at the water's edge unless otherwise given a permit.
Unless the waterway is non-navigable, as defined by the laws.
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
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Re: Gun in boat ?
#22590
05/26/10 01:04 PM
05/26/10 01:04 PM
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huntnfish2
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Originally posted by Clem:
Defining navigable waters is a constant question for canoers and kayakers as well.
Here is some info from the American Whitewater Association:
http://www.americanwhitewater.org/content/Wiki/access:al Good link Clem. Most complete collection of information I've ever seen. Thanks
You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think.
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Re: Gun in boat ?
#22591
05/27/10 07:22 PM
05/27/10 07:22 PM
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kendall
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1) shooting a snake isn't hunting, it's personal/family defense. 2) even if it was hunting, there is no closed season on snakes. 3) if I am inside the city limits and fear for my family's safety I will shoot no matter whose land I am on or who is nearby. 4)common sense ain't so common anymore.
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Re: Gun in boat ?
#22592
05/30/10 07:57 PM
05/30/10 07:57 PM
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Guntersville, AL
BirminghamBuck
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Originally posted by kendall: 1) shooting a snake isn't hunting, it's personal/family defense.
2) even if it was hunting, there is no closed season on snakes.
3) if I am inside the city limits and fear for my family's safety I will shoot no matter whose land I am on or who is nearby.
4)common sense ain't so common anymore. 1) Shooting a snake is hunting as defined by the state of Alabama. 2) You are correct, but this is a moot point. 3) I am right there with you! 4) No it isn't.
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Re: Gun in boat ?
#22594
06/02/10 05:44 AM
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Florence, Al
AlabamaSwamper
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Well, every one of you have missed the main point here.
It is 100% illegal to shoot a snake ANYWHERE in Alabama. Snakes are not legal game animals.
Most won't write a ticket for it but it's been done before.
BTR Scorer in NW Alabama
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