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Re: Gun in boat ?
#22555
05/22/10 01:57 PM
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Reckless endangerment would cover that.
Reckless endangerment of what, or who?
If I'm in the middle of the stump flats at Wheeler Lake or working a ridge at Lake Jordan or in the bayou on the Delta and a big-azz snake comes around my boat, if I shoot it and no one else is around then I'm not endangering anyone.
If you're on Neely Henry back in Canoe Creek or Logan Martin around a bunch of houses in a cove and you whip out a 20-gauge to shoot a snake, then you might be endangering someone. Maybe. But even so, if there are no regulations prohibiting the discharge of firearms then the only thing someone could do is get their panties in a wad unless you shot toward a house, dock, other boat, etc.
Good grief. Second Amendment rights don't stop once you leave dry land.
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Re: Gun in boat ?
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05/22/10 02:07 PM
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But you can't go rideing around on a public water way on your souped up Jet Ski shooting a .457 up in the air like the "liquored up" cowboys at deadwood arizona did in the 1800's either. Again your statement( (except maybe in certain situations), along with reckless "endangerment" covers most cases of stupidity. 
I believe in the free speech that liberals used to believe in, the economic freedom that conservatives used to believe in, and the personal freedom that America used to believe in.
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Re: Gun in boat ?
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05/22/10 08:21 PM
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Turd is just being turd. No matter what you post or say or what regulation you prove him wrong with, he is going to try and find some way around it. He can't help it, it's the liberal in him. If I had to guess he would be the first to shoot a snake out of the boat with a gun and then turn right around and tell everyone on a public forum that they can't do it. Just my take.  Turd, if you don't like my opinion TS, we're even, cause I don't care for yours either.
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Re: Gun in boat ?
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05/22/10 10:03 PM
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Originally posted by Clem: I'd take that to be hunting game species and might challenge "any" in court if given a citation.
Bottom line is it's not illegal to use lead shot on public waterways unless hunting migratory birds or on a national wildlife refuge, it's not illegal to discharge a firearm on a waterway and unless you're hunting - the regulation cited pertains to hunting, which is specifically stated in the header - it's not illegal to shoot a snake or animal from a moving vessel (except maybe in certain situations).
Crossman pellet rifles are OK, Dixie! It is absolutely illegal to shoot a snake, or any wild animal for that matter, from a moving vessel in Alabama. I never said that it was always illegal to discharge a firearm on the water, just in certain cases. As far as lead, I was wrong on that one.
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Re: Gun in boat ?
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05/23/10 02:32 AM
05/23/10 02:32 AM
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Originally posted by BirminghamBuck: Originally posted by Clem: [b] I'd take that to be hunting game species and might challenge "any" in court if given a citation. Bottom line is it's not illegal to use lead shot on public waterways unless hunting migratory birds or on a national wildlife refuge, it's not illegal to discharge a firearm on a waterway and unless you're hunting - the regulation cited pertains to hunting, which is specifically stated in the header - it's not illegal to shoot a snake or animal from a moving vessel (except maybe in certain situations). Crossman pellet rifles are OK, Dixie!
I never said that it was always illegal to discharge a firearm on the water, just in certain cases.
As far as lead, I was wrong on that one. [/b]Since y'all are just being arguementative and picking each other's posts apart with 'word games'....... BB, you're wrong. NOTHING you, or anybody posted, prohibits shooting from a MOVING boat! Only if it is 'under power'. 
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Re: Gun in boat ?
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05/23/10 06:18 AM
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Originally posted by BAMA RUGER: Originally posted by drtrdspt: [b] But you can't go rideing around on a public water way on your souped up Jet Ski shooting a .457 up in the air like the "liquored up" cowboys at deadwood arizona did in the 1800's either. Again your statement( (except maybe in certain situations), along with reckless "endangerment" covers most cases of stupidity. Really not new at all. Googel ".457 Magnum" and you might learn something. http://www.google.com/images?rlz=1T4GGLF...ved=0CCUQsAQwAA http://www.baldwin-telecom.net/~vernand/bullets/457%20Caliber/457.htm Turd, if you don't like my opinion TS, we're even, cause I don't care for yours either.
Hey puke, don't flatter yourself. You don't see me looking your post up to respond to. Your post are like you, completely irrelevent to me. :rolleyes:
I believe in the free speech that liberals used to believe in, the economic freedom that conservatives used to believe in, and the personal freedom that America used to believe in.
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Re: Gun in boat ?
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05/23/10 07:57 AM
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Originally posted by Hogwild: Originally posted by BirminghamBuck: [b] Originally posted by Clem: [b] I'd take that to be hunting game species and might challenge "any" in court if given a citation. Bottom line is it's not illegal to use lead shot on public waterways unless hunting migratory birds or on a national wildlife refuge, it's not illegal to discharge a firearm on a waterway and unless you're hunting - the regulation cited pertains to hunting, which is specifically stated in the header - it's not illegal to shoot a snake or animal from a moving vessel (except maybe in certain situations). Crossman pellet rifles are OK, Dixie! It is absolutely illegal to shoot a snake, or any wild animal for that matter, from a moving vessel in Alabama. I never said that it was always illegal to discharge a firearm on the water, just in certain cases. As far as lead, I was wrong on that one. [/b]
BB, you're wrong. NOTHING you, or anybody posted, prohibits shooting from a MOVING boat! Only if it is 'under power'.
[/b]Thanks for joining. Unfortunately, you are dead wrong. Now if forward progress has stopped, you are correct. Word games? Not sure I am following how I am playing word games by posting the law. :rolleyes:
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Re: Gun in boat ?
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05/23/10 09:09 AM
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Actullay BHB Hogwild is correct. you can drift hunt squirrels or atleast you use to could.
I believe in the free speech that liberals used to believe in, the economic freedom that conservatives used to believe in, and the personal freedom that America used to believe in.
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Re: Gun in boat ?
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05/23/10 02:45 PM
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Round ‘bout there
Clem
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The regulation says vessels must have forward progress ceased from a motor or sail propulsion, and vehicles must be stopped with the motor turned off.
But it does allow for drifting, if I read it correctly, along with paddling. So if you're drifting or paddling along for squirrels or ducks on a creek, you're OK.
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
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Re: Gun in boat ?
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05/23/10 05:54 PM
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THere are glitches to that as well Clem. You can't do it where the shore line is private property unless you have the property owners permission. Public Places where you can do it is like the mobile delta and other public land areas.
I believe in the free speech that liberals used to believe in, the economic freedom that conservatives used to believe in, and the personal freedom that America used to believe in.
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Re: Gun in boat ?
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05/24/10 07:18 AM
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You better check with another GW or even the local police if you intend to be doing some snake shooting in a portion of navigatable waterways that are with in the city limits of some city.
Other wise kill um all.
I believe in the free speech that liberals used to believe in, the economic freedom that conservatives used to believe in, and the personal freedom that America used to believe in.
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Re: Gun in boat ?
#22569
05/24/10 07:44 AM
05/24/10 07:44 AM
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Originally posted by drtrdspt:
THere are glitches to that as well Clem. You can't do it where the shore line is private property unless you have the property owners permission. BZzzzzzzz!!!! Wrong answer. If you are in your boat, it doesn't matter if the shoreline is private or public as long as you're at least 100 yards from a dwelling. The property owners do not own the water. If it's "navigable public waterways" you're just fine.
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Re: Gun in boat ?
#22570
05/24/10 03:37 PM
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Originally posted by Driveby: Originally posted by drtrdspt:
[b] THere are glitches to that as well Clem. You can't do it where the shore line is private property unless you have the property owners permission. Ding Ding Ding we have a winner.Owner only owns the land at full pool all other land below full pool is AP
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Re: Gun in boat ?
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05/25/10 09:20 AM
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Foote, in your particular case, as long as you are past Morgan it will be OK. The river is in the city limits from where it ends on Dallas Ave to the other side of the bridge. If you step foot on the other side of the river however, you are out of the city limits.
It is illegal to discharge a firearm in the City limits.
Reckless Engangerment charges could also apply if it were shown that your actions created a substatial risk to someone else i.e. shooting towards them or an occupied residence. This is where common sense factors apply.
Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
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Re: Gun in boat ?
#22573
05/25/10 11:21 AM
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Originally posted by jawbone:
Foote, in your particular case, as long as you are past Morgan it will be OK. The river is in the city limits from where it ends on Dallas Ave to the other side of the bridge. If you step foot on the other side of the river however, you are out of the city limits.
It is illegal to discharge a firearm in the City limits.
Reckless Engangerment charges could also apply if it were shown that your actions created a substatial risk to someone else i.e. shooting towards them or an occupied residence. This is where common sense factors apply. Thanks David, I will be way up or way down from Morgan! You heard about the breakins at the City Marina? Got 3 of us Sunday!
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Re: Gun in boat ?
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05/25/10 12:02 PM
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Originally posted by jawbone:
It is illegal to discharge a firearm in the City limits.
I hope that wasn't a law when we were kids. I killed my 3-5th turkeys in pretty darn close to that line and shot many of doves flying over the football field
You all ain't nothing but a bunch of softies. I have to wait until my flomax kicks in or I will wet the bed. Yum u no wat i sy hu---- The Geezer
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