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Re: Throw n Mow Q&A
[Re: ALclearcut]
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10/27/17 03:41 PM
10/27/17 03:41 PM
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Remington270
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Question: Does the clover planted in a mix with cereal grains continuously provide nitrogen that the grains can also use? Or does the nitrogen fixing ability of the clover plant provide nitrogen only to the clover? I know clover is often used as a cover crop that is then tilled under to provide nitrogen to a cereal grain planted over it, but can the clover provide nitrogen to a cereal grain while the clover is still alive? I'm no botanist, but I think the benefit of nitrogen fixation for other plants is only after the clover dies.
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Re: Throw n Mow Q&A
[Re: Remington270]
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10/27/17 05:06 PM
10/27/17 05:06 PM
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ALclearcut
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Question: Does the clover planted in a mix with cereal grains continuously provide nitrogen that the grains can also use? Or does the nitrogen fixing ability of the clover plant provide nitrogen only to the clover? I know clover is often used as a cover crop that is then tilled under to provide nitrogen to a cereal grain planted over it, but can the clover provide nitrogen to a cereal grain while the clover is still alive? I'm no botanist, but I think the benefit of nitrogen fixation for other plants is only after the clover dies. That is what I am assuming as well.
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Re: Throw n Mow Q&A
[Re: ALclearcut]
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10/28/17 01:59 AM
10/28/17 01:59 AM
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Waldo
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Question: Does the clover planted in a mix with cereal grains continuously provide nitrogen that the grains can also use? Or does the nitrogen fixing ability of the clover plant provide nitrogen only to the clover? I know clover is often used as a cover crop that is then tilled under to provide nitrogen to a cereal grain planted over it, but can the clover provide nitrogen to a cereal grain while the clover is still alive? I'm no botanist, but I think the benefit of nitrogen fixation for other plants is only after the clover dies. That is what I am assuming as well. Yes this is part of the nitrogen cycle. You could also consider it a green manure process. Legumes are just very efficient at removing nitrogen from the soil and air due to their relationship with nitrogen fixing bacteria. When they die it is released.
Last edited by Waldo; 10/28/17 02:05 AM.
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Re: Throw n Mow Q&A
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10/31/17 04:07 AM
10/31/17 04:07 AM
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I felt like my plots needed some help so I put 1K lbs of nitrogen out right before the rain saturday. I've had over 7 inches of rain in less that 5 weeks on my plots and you could tell. hopefully they jump like yours
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Re: Throw n Mow Q&A
[Re: Waldo]
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11/02/17 05:46 AM
11/02/17 05:46 AM
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What type of clover is that? Crimson clover
We dont rent pigs
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Re: Throw n Mow Q&A
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11/02/17 09:26 AM
11/02/17 09:26 AM
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I top sowed some cereal rye in a small foodplot this morning. The field came up great, but the deer have worn it out.
83% of all statistics are made up.
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Re: Throw n Mow Q&A
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11/02/17 02:45 PM
11/02/17 02:45 PM
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William
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I do this in my backyard all the time. Crimson in the winter and white dutch in the Spring. The white dutch tolerates a low mow height all season long.
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Re: Throw n Mow Q&A
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11/04/17 01:22 PM
11/04/17 01:22 PM
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Mine aren't but a few inches tall.
Would walk over a naked woman to get to a gobblin turkey!
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Re: Throw n Mow Q&A
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11/04/17 02:14 PM
11/04/17 02:14 PM
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Mine were well over ankle tall and then the deer mowed them down to a couple of inches tall.
83% of all statistics are made up.
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Re: Throw n Mow Q&A
[Re: Joe4majors]
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11/04/17 02:39 PM
11/04/17 02:39 PM
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Do your deer actually eat the turnips? I realize they help bring nutrients back to the surface.
If we had a really cold winter and you had a high deer density then you might possibly see them eating on the bulbs. I haven’t planted them in several years so we’ll see if they get any action late in the season.
Last edited by CNC; 11/04/17 02:40 PM.
We dont rent pigs
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Re: Throw n Mow Q&A
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11/05/17 03:45 AM
11/05/17 03:45 AM
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There’s one thing I’m seeing with the turnips without much doubt……The clover is definitely thriving more where it’s growing in conjunction with the turnips as opposed to the areas where there are no turnips. I didn’t do a very good job of blending my turnip seed in with my fert so its not the most even. The good thing though is that it allows me to compare with and without turnips. I figure that its partially due to the shade that the turnips are offering the clover but I also suspect that there’s some root interactions of some kind as well that are benefiting the clover. This is yuchi arrowleaf in this pic………
We dont rent pigs
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Re: Throw n Mow Q&A
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11/05/17 04:02 AM
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I wish the deer would leave my turnips and radishes alone until late season like I intended. Lol
83% of all statistics are made up.
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