Ok good maybe they just leave themselves a lot of cushion on the dates. Can't really blame them to keep people from raising a stink.

I also ordered the TrueTimber® Men's Full-Zip High-Pile Windproof– Jacket. I have the hoodie that looks identical to this a couple years ago on sale. Super warm and the fleece on the inside is super soft. It is way warmer than any other hoodie I own.