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Re: Jones Lead
[Re: straycat]
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12/11/17 12:39 PM
12/11/17 12:39 PM
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Posts: 14,756 Clanton
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This race will be closer than the normal Alabama Senate races we've gotten used to.
The Liberals and die hard Democrats will vote for the Democrat regardelss...as usual. The die hard conservatives will vote for Moore even if they don't like him because they will never support a democrat because of what the national party stands for...as usual.
The middle/moderate/swing & switch voters are the ones giving Doug Jones more traction. Many of these people are not religious at all and are frankly not a fan of Roy Moore even before all the allegations from 40 years ago....they can be and are easily swayed with a few conservative-ish democrat talking points like Jones is doing. Their #s have increased after the allegations. I'm talking the white younger social media driven enlightened family crowds in Huntsville, Birmingham, Montgomery, Mobile, etc...the hip, cool young families that grew up under Bill Clinton and came of age under Obama. They are not conservative like the rest of us. I'm also talking about the older white couples who are fine with protest voting against an outspoken Christian...especially one now with allegations. There are more Doug Jones signs in yards in Vestavia, Hoover, Pelham, Alabaster Chelsea than I've ever seen before for any other national Democrat candidate....after the allegations came out the signs for Jones doubled.
The 10 point Jones lead in the Fox poll is probably very wrong...only had a sample of less than 1200 people....that poll is an outlier to all the other polls that show Moore with a 4-6 point lead.
For the typical Alabama conservative, this election isn't really FOR anyone...but a hold your nose and make sure a national progressive democrat doesn't get a win.
I'm not a Moore fan at all. But I'm a Never-Jones voter. Every single Never-Jones or anti-Democrat voter needs to go vote tomorrow. That poll also over sampled democrats by 20%
Would walk over a naked woman to get to a gobblin turkey!
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Re: Jones Lead
[Re: toothdoc]
#2327227
12/11/17 12:50 PM
12/11/17 12:50 PM
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Dustin
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Both of them jacklegs are two ends of the same turd.
Moore people won't put out a sign because just like with Trump, they'll vote for him but don't want to have to defend him.
The only thing one of those polls tell me is that they are basing their "scientific survey" on folks that have a landline and have nothing else to do when they call and are willing to discuss their political views for 5 to 10 minutes.
Don't let life get in the way of living
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Re: Jones Lead
[Re: toothdoc]
#2327228
12/11/17 12:50 PM
12/11/17 12:50 PM
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BassCat
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That poll states at the bottom in very small writing that its outcome depends entirely on the strapulated number of democrats coming out to vote that they hope will vote. Its not based on facts.
If you claim to be a Christian then why do you act like the devil? You will be known by the fruit you bear!
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Re: Jones Lead
[Re: BassCat]
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12/11/17 12:57 PM
12/11/17 12:57 PM
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WmHunter
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Various Leftist and RINO groups have spent tens of millions on negative adds against Moore. And they are effective. They are basically characterizing this as a life and death issue for African Americans - as if going back to slavery and Jim Crow segregation will happen if Moore wins. They are counting on these racist scare tactics to get a large percentage of black people to vote, whereas but for those ads they would not be as motivated to vote in this special election.
I suspect every single LGBTQ will vote Dem as will registered Dems and every feminist woman and probably a much higher percentage of blacks then one would have originally expected for a special election.
The "Highway 31" group that is running the most scurrilous ads is an Obama group out of D.C.
"The Tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson
" Chuck Sykes is a dictator control freak like Vladimir Putin " WmHunter
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Re: Jones Lead
[Re: DEADorALIVE]
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12/11/17 12:59 PM
12/11/17 12:59 PM
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Posts: 2,777 Athens, GA
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I'm sure they will be discussing nothing more than the love of Christ. Only in black churches will you hear more preaching about faux racism and politics than you will the word of God. Who knows? ...Couldn't help but notice the 2 red "R's" in Righteous Resistance... Prattville is misspelled too.
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Re: Jones Lead
[Re: toothdoc]
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12/11/17 12:59 PM
12/11/17 12:59 PM
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Dustin
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I wrote my post about 10 minutes ago and since then I've heard 3 damn Jones ads. I'm about to the point that Moore could come up to my house, kick my dog, mushroom stamp my storm door and sh!it in my mailbox and I'd still vote for him over Jones just because of the damn aggravating ads.
Don't let life get in the way of living
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Re: Jones Lead
[Re: toothdoc]
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12/11/17 01:21 PM
12/11/17 01:21 PM
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Posts: 26,187 Prattville, Alabama
Skullworks
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
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I just saw a mini van with a big Air Force sticker in the middle of the back window and a Bernie sticker on the bumper...nuff said.
"I'm not near as critical about how big they are as I once was. Smiles are more important now! We will grow more deer." Jimmy G.
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Re: Jones Lead
[Re: bobwallace]
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12/11/17 01:30 PM
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outdoorobsession
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I got a robo call about 10 minutes ago. It was a recorded message with a speech from Richard Shelby about not voting for the rapin' bastard Roy Moore. NOONE should ever vote for this asshat Shelby again as a republican. Hes a phuckin liberel POS! Making robocalls AGAINST the republican candidate. That says it all!
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Re: Jones Lead
[Re: WmHunter]
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12/11/17 01:32 PM
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outdoorobsession
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Various Leftist and RINO groups have spent tens of millions on negative adds against Moore. And they are effective. They are basically characterizing this as a life and death issue for African Americans - as if going back to slavery and Jim Crow segregation will happen if Moore wins. They are counting on these racist scare tactics to get a large percentage of black people to vote, whereas but for those ads they would not be as motivated to vote in this special election.
I suspect every single LGBTQ will vote Dem as will registered Dems and every feminist woman and probably a much higher percentage of blacks then one would have originally expected for a special election.
The "Highway 31" group that is running the most scurrilous ads is an Obama group out of D.C. Exactly. and George Soros the phuckin devil himself has funnel millions into this Propaganda. I love seeing that jackhole lose money like he did going against Trump.
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Re: Jones Lead
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12/11/17 01:36 PM
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jbc
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I got a robo call about 10 minutes ago. It was a recorded message with a speech from Richard Shelby about not voting for the rapin' bastard Roy Moore. NOONE should ever vote for this asshat Shelby again as a republican. Hes a phuckin liberel POS! Making robocalls AGAINST the republican candidate. That says it all! Phil, To be completely true and fair, he isn’t making robot calls. Jones campaign is incorporating a recorded quote in theirs.
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Re: Jones Lead
[Re: toothdoc]
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12/11/17 01:39 PM
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outdoorobsession
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OK...I heard his stupid ad too using Shelby's saying he wouldnt vote for Moore to "write in" someone. Still hes an arsehat.
I thought he had also made a dang robo call.
We need this senate seat to get trumps agenda passed. As a republican he should know that.
Until someone is CONVICTED in a Court of Law then unfounded accusations are just that " UNFOUNDED, unproven innuendo".
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Re: Jones Lead
[Re: toothdoc]
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12/11/17 02:02 PM
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Posts: 18,941 North AL
AU338MAG
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I think the polls are "push" polls designed to motivate one side or the other. The fox poll showing Jones leading is to motivate conservatives who may have stayed home to get out and vote, and vice versa the AL.com poll.
Dying ain't much of a living boy...Josey Wales
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Re: Jones Lead
[Re: AU338MAG]
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12/11/17 02:03 PM
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outdoorobsession
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I think the polls are "push" polls designed to motivate one side or the other. The fox poll showing Jones leading is to motivate conservatives who may have stayed home to get out and vote, and vice versa the AL.com poll. And thats sounds very logical. I do believe you may be right! Good post
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Re: Jones Lead
[Re: doekiller]
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12/11/17 02:11 PM
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outdoorobsession
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outdoorobsession
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How many on here have Moore signs or stickers? And ANOTHER great point!
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Re: Jones Lead
[Re: doekiller]
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12/11/17 02:15 PM
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Posts: 9,541 Montgomery, AL
jbc
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How many on here have Moore signs or stickers? some people are "sign in the yard" people. some aren't. I have noticed that of the hundreds of yards with Strange signs that I drive by daily,.. probably 25% have turned into Jones signs. Relatively zero have turned into Moore signs. it will be the other 75% that now have no sign, do they vote Jones? vote republican? or don't vote? that will be the difference.
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