You do understand how this works dont you?? If the senate refused to seat him (which they in all honesty most likely would have done) or if the ethics committee forced his resignation, then the Republican Gov of Alabama gets a free pick of her choice to fill his, then vacated spot. We would have ended up with a better person than Moore in the seat and it would have stayed Republican instead of shifting to that DA ultra liberal democrat Jones who can now help obstruct anything that the Republicans will be trying to pass for the next 2 years. You're a genius. Really glad you put so much thought into your actions.

#1 show me where he was ever convicted of a crime.

You can't, he has never been convicted of any crime, so your statement about that is just plain stupid.

#2 you make valid points about the deficit, national debt and foreign wars problem - but you seem to be unaware that it is the RINO Establishment Republicans that are equally responsible with the Democrats in regards to those things. The actual true conservative Repubs like Moore would be against those things. That is why RINO Establishment Repubs were against Moore. Moore is a small government conservative.

#3 saying that liberal Democrat Jones is the same as a Roy Moore or other any real conservative is sheer lunacy.

#4 and I would like to see where Moore and Jones have the same position on any issue.

In a 50-page judgment Friday, two days after Moore appeared for a hearing in the case, Alabama’s Court of the Judiciary found him guilty of failing to comply with the law, uphold the integrity of the court and “perform the duties of his office impartially.”

Moore is a small government conservative.

#3 saying that liberal Democrat Jones is the same as a Roy Moore or other any real conservative is sheer lunacy.

#4 and I would like to see where Moore and Jones have the same position on any issue.

OK,..and here is my problem.

I can tell a lot of you younger guys just dont get it but you will.

A couple of the other older guys have pmmed me with the same feeling.

Its pretty simple. I worked hard my whole life. Never took one cent of Government money..not a penny.

I always had a job or I was running a business. I put myself through college working 2 jobs..no grants from the government either.

Im not complaining..just stating facts.

Now Im in my late 50's and saving for retirement. My wife and I stuck to a budget, saved, invested and did everything we could to retire at 65.

Not too unreasonable to ask right?

It included banking $25,000- 30,000 a year so we could use it as we got older in retirement. We budgeted accordingly, spent accordingly, and saved accordingly .

Now that whole idea and budget is phucked!

Why, because of something WE did? Heck no.

Due to Obozocare.

Our healthcare was always around $500 per month. We got plans in that range so we COULD SAVE FOR OUR OLDER YEARS.
Now it $2400 a damn month. $22,800 more a year!

And guess where that extra $22,800 comes from....?

The dam $25,000 - $30,000 a year we were saving for retirement. So now we have to WORK AT LEAST EIGHT MORE years to retire because we cannot bank that amount!

Ill be 73!

Instead now, some non working freeloaders are getting "FREE" Health care. Yea, Its free to THEM, but not a whole bunch of the rest of us that are paying 5 times what we used to.

Now yall dont mind now, yall arent paying it..but I laugh at that.

Youll make enough money and then youll see the big bill coming in every month.

Way higher then any dam house mortage. that $2400 per month covers the mortgage on a $750,000 HOUSE!

If its gone this bad this quick, you guys are gonna be paying more. A WHOLE LOT more.

Youll be spending $2-3000 a month soon yourselves just for healthcare you dont even use.

And then..ON TOP OF that..you get your federal tax bill..in the 5 figures too.

But guess what?

You will all be paying alot more then that. In 30 years I guarantee you guys will be 70% of your income to support freeloaders that dont work.

You guys dont get it now, but you will believe me.

But guess what again...by that time it will be too late. Progressivism NEVER recedes..ever..it just keeps inching further along..Progressing.

Trumps election was enough of us paying way too much saying WE HAVE HAD ENOUGH!

But doesnt matter as some people think an election is about LIKING SOMEONE.

You younger guys will be the ones paying off this huge 20 trillion dollar deficit..so to be honest..yall deserve the government youll get.

OK,..and here is my problem.

I can tell a lot of you younger guys just dont get it but you will.

A couple of the other older guys have pmmed me with the same feeling.

Its pretty simple. I worked hard my whole life. Never took one cent of Government money..not a penny.

I always had a job or I was running a business. I put myself through college working 2 jobs..no grants from the government either.

Im not complaining..just stating facts.

Now Im in my late 50's and saving for retirement. My wife and I stuck to a budget, saved, invested and did everything we could to retire at 65.

Not too unreasonable to ask right?

It included banking $25,000- 30,000 a year so we could use it as we got older in retirement. We budgeted accordingly, spent accordingly, and saved accordingly .

Now that whole idea and budget is phucked!

Why, because of something WE did? Heck no.

Due to Obozocare.

Our healthcare was always around $500 per month. We got plans in that range so we COULD SAVE FOR OUR OLDER YEARS.
Now it $2400 a damn month. $22,800 more a year!

And guess where that extra $22,800 comes from....?

The dam $25,000 - $30,000 a year we were saving for retirement. So now we have to WORK AT LEAST EIGHT MORE years to retire because we cannot bank that amount!

Ill be 73!

Instead now, some non working freeloaders are getting "FREE" Health care. Yea, Its free to THEM, but not a whole bunch of the rest of us that are paying 5 times what we used to.

Now yall dont mind now, yall arent paying it..but I laugh at that.

Youll make enough money and then youll see the big bill coming in every month.

Way higher then any dam house mortage. that $2400 per month covers the mortgage on a $750,000 HOUSE!

If its gone this bad this quick, you guys are gonna be paying more. A WHOLE LOT more.

Youll be spending $2-3000 a month soon yourselves just for healthcare you dont even use.

And then..ON TOP OF that..you get your federal tax bill..in the 5 figures too.

But guess what?

You will all be paying alot more then that. In 30 years I guarantee you guys will be 70% of your income to support freeloaders that dont work.

You guys dont get it now, but you will believe me.

But guess what again...by that time it will be too late. Progressivism NEVER recedes..ever..it just keeps inching further along..Progressing.

Trumps election was enough of us paying way too much saying WE HAVE HAD ENOUGH!

But doesnt matter as some people think an election is about LIKING SOMEONE.

You younger guys will be the ones paying off this huge 20 trillion dollar deficit..so to be honest..yall deserve the government youll get.

My family health insurance went up from $500 to about $700.

$2,400 a month would hurt

Well your situation is one of three things:

Either your plan is pure chit and doesnt cover anything

Your employer is paying large portion of your health care cost

Which of the three is it?

Or you are getting an Obamacare subsidy to get it reduced to $700/mth.

No chance they would have gotten 67/100 votes to vacate his position (to my understanding that’s what it would take)

My wife works for a good company.

Finally someone who really gets it and understands exactly what is happening and has been slowly happening for the past 20 years. Boys, we are the frog in the pot on the stove and they turned the burner on a long time ago. The water is getting warm and a bunch of you are saying, 'this feels nice, it's almost like taking a bath". Once it hits the boiling point, the frog dies. This country is very very close to that point right now. A whole lot closer than most of you realize. It's time to wake up and support those willing to fight the liberals and corrupt politicians in the swamp and promote the ideals that this country was founded on. Outdoor, you are spot on with everything you wrote!

You nailed it, and could not have said it any better. I received calls today from my counter parts up in IN, MN, and NE who work for our company....all said the same thing, WHAT HAPPENED DOWN THERE? It was the bigger picture we are all looking at...not the candidates. I have worked by the sweat of my brow for many years, owning two companies, and now working for a friend. If you work for us and just want to punch a clock...you want last. I can't stand free-loaders. Example: Where we work and what we do, you don't have time playing around on the internet, and your phone...just work all day long...that's right....work all day long. BUT the rewards are great, and so is the money. But I demise free-loaders, and Obama Care, and politics all the way around. Younger gen will pay the price, and I'm just hoping I can make it around it...mainly the cost of Heath Care. I'm still on track for retirement in 10 yrs...I think.

My wife works for a good company.

Man power to ya and good luck!

Preach it brother!

We run our own business so the healthcare got expensive quick...we were the first ones hit..Self employed LLC owners.

If you look back at my posts the year or two after they passed the Affordable Health Care Act youll see LLC owners on here were already mentioning the increases.

It started then and has gone up EVERY SINGLE YEAR. And the ACA passed in 2010. Like I said, progressivism just crawls along..a little MORE, every year.

And it would be stupid and UNREALISTIC to expect that to change. last year it was just over 2000 a month.Now its 2400

And heck..who am I kidding? RETIRING?

IM afraid to retire. I know too many folks who died shortly after retiring.

I love doing what I do, building , flipping houses and real estate all around.

Ive worked my whole life. Id be bored.

Ill still flip a few houses a year just to feel useful and have something to do I guess!

And man I have alot of good sub contractors. A lot who are good friends. I like paying them and keeping them busy and working.

I just try to warn people what its gonna be like in my opinion, from what Ive experienced.

Good luck to you and get a lot of fishing and hunting in if you do get to retire that early..and I sincerely hope you do!

I get what your saying, I do get it. But in this case, my dislike of Roy Moore was too much. I couldn't hold my nose and vote for him. And to think all the crap that the ethics people in the senate would throw at him to get him out. Also, had he won he would be running again in 2020....no thanks, get a better candidate for 2020 and Jones will be voted out....no doubt.

Hey guys, let it go we're on to starting an ALDeer comedy routine to bring everyone together.