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Net neutrality #2336719
12/19/17 04:20 AM
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I’m sure it’s been covered already. I haven’t been following this whole thing. What’s happened and what does it mean to us?

Re: Net neutrality [Re: Cactus_buck] #2336741
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Well I am waiting on the internet to just not be there any day now....

What I hope happens is that some time soon I will have more than one internet provider in my area, the only one I have access to is Century link and it sucks 10 megs is the fastest they offer at my house..



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Re: Net neutrality [Re: Cactus_buck] #2336742
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Re: Net neutrality [Re: bama1157] #2336904
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Originally Posted By: bama1157
Well I am waiting on the internet to just not be there any day now....

What I hope happens is that some time soon I will have more than one internet provider in my area, the only one I have access to is Century link and it sucks 10 megs is the fastest they offer at my house..


not gonna happen, what will happen is. Prices will probably go up based on how much data you use. What will also happen is, things likenetflix and hulu will go up in price because of the increased rate they will be charged by the isp or they will be throttled down to a speed were the consumer cant use them, this fee will be passed to the consumer. Also what will happen is smaller file sharing pages that are free will be throttled down and you will be left with only the paid sites.


"A moment of realization is worth a thousand prayers"
Re: Net neutrality [Re: goodman_hunter] #2336911
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Originally Posted By: goodman_hunter
Originally Posted By: bama1157
Well I am waiting on the internet to just not be there any day now....

What I hope happens is that some time soon I will have more than one internet provider in my area, the only one I have access to is Century link and it sucks 10 megs is the fastest they offer at my house..


not gonna happen, what will happen is. Prices will probably go up based on how much data you use. What will also happen is, things likenetflix and hulu will go up in price because of the increased rate they will be charged by the isp or they will be throttled down to a speed were the consumer cant use them, this fee will be passed to the consumer. Also what will happen is smaller file sharing pages that are free will be throttled down and you will be left with only the paid sites.


Just like cell phone data?

Re: Net neutrality [Re: Cactus_buck] #2336941
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yes, coupled with the fact they're gonna start charging netflix, youtube, hulu and anyone else they can extort by throttling down data.


"A moment of realization is worth a thousand prayers"
Re: Net neutrality [Re: goodman_hunter] #2336959
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Originally Posted By: goodman_hunter
yes, coupled with the fact they're gonna start charging netflix, youtube, hulu and anyone else they can extort by throttling down data.


Haha - Leftist scare tactics. What about taking away facetimegram from granny, and stealing her SS check from her mail box, and he false teeth. Don't forget her false teeth.


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Re: Net neutrality [Re: Beer Belly] #2336967
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Originally Posted By: Beer Belly
Originally Posted By: goodman_hunter
yes, coupled with the fact they're gonna start charging netflix, youtube, hulu and anyone else they can extort by throttling down data.


Haha - Leftist scare tactics. What about taking away facetimegram from granny, and stealing her SS check from her mail box, and he false teeth. Don't forget her false teeth.



if thats what you wanna think, its pretty common knowledge thats whats gonna happen. They openely admit there gonna charge them companies to operate on the web. You might wanna do some research.


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Re: Net neutrality [Re: Cactus_buck] #2336974
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in this fairy tale world your talking about, You think verizion and the other isp's were pushing this so they can offer lower prices and make less money?


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Re: Net neutrality [Re: goodman_hunter] #2336994
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Last time I checked, internet and streaming tv shows weren't needed for one to live. If Verizon, Charter etc want to charge a gazillion dollars a month to use their service, then that is what they should be able to do IMO.


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Re: Net neutrality [Re: goodman_hunter] #2337003
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Originally Posted By: goodman_hunter
Originally Posted By: bama1157
Well I am waiting on the internet to just not be there any day now....

What I hope happens is that some time soon I will have more than one internet provider in my area, the only one I have access to is Century link and it sucks 10 megs is the fastest they offer at my house..


not gonna happen, what will happen is. Prices will probably go up based on how much data you use. What will also happen is, things likenetflix and hulu will go up in price because of the increased rate they will be charged by the isp or they will be throttled down to a speed were the consumer cant use them, this fee will be passed to the consumer. Also what will happen is smaller file sharing pages that are free will be throttled down and you will be left with only the paid sites.


I've already gotten an email from Netflix increasing my rate. Probably isn't even related, but the timing is ironic.

Re: Net neutrality [Re: dead_eye] #2337008
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Originally Posted By: dead_eye
Originally Posted By: goodman_hunter
Originally Posted By: bama1157
Well I am waiting on the internet to just not be there any day now....

What I hope happens is that some time soon I will have more than one internet provider in my area, the only one I have access to is Century link and it sucks 10 megs is the fastest they offer at my house..


not gonna happen, what will happen is. Prices will probably go up based on how much data you use. What will also happen is, things likenetflix and hulu will go up in price because of the increased rate they will be charged by the isp or they will be throttled down to a speed were the consumer cant use them, this fee will be passed to the consumer. Also what will happen is smaller file sharing pages that are free will be throttled down and you will be left with only the paid sites.


I've already gotten an email from Netflix increasing my rate. Probably isn't even related, but the timing is ironic.


I had seen where Netflix was raising their rates at the first of the year a couple months ago which was certainly before the net neutrality decision.


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Re: Net neutrality [Re: Cactus_buck] #2337009
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If DTV goes up any more I'm going back to the antenna.
I'm already paying for 300 channels I don't watch.

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Re: Net neutrality [Re: goodman_hunter] #2337011
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Originally Posted By: goodman_hunter
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in this fairy tale world your talking about, You think verizion and the other isp's were pushing this so they can offer lower prices and make less money?


As someone who has 10 years of experience in the wireless industry, you really think these companies are gaining huge amounts of revenue off of wireless services? Wireless is allowing them to stay afloat, but they're all scrambling to find new revenue streams. That's the only industry that has year over year growth, but decreases in revenue.

Look at at&t for an example. They've aquired direct TV, time Warner, and FirstNet by spending Billions of dollars to try and find another path yo make money out of wireless.

Re: Net neutrality [Re: TexasHuntress] #2337017
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Originally Posted By: TexasHuntress




I had seen where Netflix was raising their rates at the first of the year a couple months ago which was certainly before the net neutrality decision.


the writing was already on the wall. Everybody that needed to be paid, was. The vote was more of a formality than anything.


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Re: Net neutrality [Re: Out back] #2337034
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Originally Posted By: Out back
If DTV goes up any more I'm going back to the antenna.
I'm already paying for 300 channels I don't watch.


Already did, saving $120 a month.

Re: Net neutrality [Re: IDOT] #2337086
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Originally Posted By: IDOT
Last time I checked, internet and streaming tv shows weren't needed for one to live. If Verizon, Charter etc want to charge a gazillion dollars a month to use their service, then that is what they should be able to do IMO.


100%

Also, if they begin going up on rates too much the market will correct. You can bet another ISP will pop up offering lower rates to steal the customer base.


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I think I see why Goodman hunter is so upset....

http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2017/12/19/n...xperts-say.html

Re: Net neutrality [Re: Cactus_buck] #2337116
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My understanding is that net neutrality was an obummer thing that went into effect in 2015. If it goes away, won't everything go back to the way it was before 2015? I honestly can't remember expensive fees for services from my ISP, and Netflix was even less than it is now. I also don't remember any huge changes when it went into effect in 2015. If things go back the way they were, is that really a bad thing???


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Re: Net neutrality [Re: HippieKiller] #2337118
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Originally Posted By: HippieKiller

Originally Posted By: IDOT
Last time I checked, internet and streaming tv shows weren't needed for one to live. If Verizon, Charter etc want to charge a gazillion dollars a month to use their service, then that is what they should be able to do IMO.


100%

Also, if they begin going up on rates too much the market will correct. You can bet another ISP will pop up offering lower rates to steal the customer base.



With normal businesses yes. But an ISP cannot just "pop up" due to network infrastructure requirements and your competition will sure as hell not allow you to use their already existing one.

Most rural areas have one ISP if they are lucky. I am not sure how "just go without internet" is an acceptable response.

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