Originally Posted By: bigt
Originally Posted By: leroycnbucks
Originally Posted By: centralala
This is gonna be long. Those who say the ones not reporting are the one wanting to kill more than 3 bucks is true but is far from the sole reason. I've never said I was for or against the 10 day extension in the north or GC. What I am and was against was the data used for the 10 day extension. They happened the same year. Why not implement GC, gather data, and then use it for or against the 10 extension. GC, if done correctly, should be at least considered in the decisions. Either the 10 extension was so important it couldn't wait on GC or GC really isn't that important in decesion making.
Then there is the leader you publically belittles landowners, military, special needs people, and senior citizens by essentially saying they are no better than a capable welfare recipient. True leaders can get the people to follow and the people will like it and then their are the ones that naturally just have a way of turning people off. He was the wrong guy to be pushing GC.
Next, is the goal. What is our goal and the plan to get there? Older deer? Bigger deer? More balanced herd? Not just "a healthier nerd?" That meaning could vary. Spell it out for the people.

So, we have a leader that targets certain groups that's going to piss most people whether you are a military supporter or a special needs supporter. He delivers a program for better data at the same time delivers a season extension contradicting the need for data. Everything done without a goal relayed to the hunters.

As I said, I'm not pro or anti GC. But from many conversations GC non compliance goes much deeper than just wanting to kill more than 3 bucks.



As you stated in the high lighted paragraph having an elitist attitude will never work with us common folk's that deer hunt our small tracts of land, in clubs or management areas. What gets our attention is a common sense approach that produces real results. Anybody with any hunting knowledge knows that what works in one area of the state doesn't in all of the state. Like extending the season to the tenth of February in North Alabama. That's what just doesn't make any sense at all and game check working at 30 % even shows that.

Honestly I do not believe Sykes has an elitist attitude rather just that of a wildlife biologist that was used to being hired by a landowner to manage the wildlife and if you wanted to hunt or lease said property you were going to do what he said to do. I think as time goes by he will learn the difference but it is good to have someone that actually has made his living prior to this job managing wildlife I think...


bigt I would agree with that on a personal level but as far as hunting I think he has. Chuck has managed property that us average hunters would only dream of hunting on. At times I think his way of managing the herd for the state has some of that influence.

Personally I always go back to this before game check.
-what was broke before they decided it needed fixin
-who decided it needed fixin
-what data did they use to try and fix it
-why wasn't more information taken from hunters when buying a hunting license about deer kills like migratory birds
-who thought that killing a doe a day was a good idea for the entire hunting season
-who provided that data

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