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Re: Coaches Votes - Saban voted the Tide in? [Re: BowtechDan] #236100
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Originally Posted By: BowtechDan
Did Grundy get a vote?


No
How the coaches voted

...how about the big 12 coaches that voted Alabama 3rd. Are they bias too?


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Re: Coaches Votes - Saban voted the Tide in? [Re: BamaProud] #236102
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Originally Posted By: BamaProud
Originally Posted By: BowtechDan
Did Grundy get a vote?


No
How the coaches voted

...how about the big 12 coaches that voted Alabama 3rd. Are they bias too?


Don't know. But they did play against OSU. Just sayin.


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Re: Coaches Votes - Saban voted the Tide in? [Re: BowtechDan] #236103
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Gundy? No.

The Coaches Poll counts for 33% of the BCS rankings. Since it's comprised of 59 coaches, Saban's individual ballot counted for 0.5% of the final BCS ranking.

His Alabama team finished second above Oklahoma State by 0.0086 points.

Saban's poll alone didn't vault the Crimson Tide above OSU. But this whole thing is dumb for a number of reasons:

It's ridiculous that not every coach gets a vote. Why should Saban get to screw over OSU by putting them forth, yet OSU coach Mike Gundy can't do the same because he doesn't have a vote?
It's absurd that coaches of teams with a shot to go to the title game aren't asked to recuse themselves from the Coaches Poll. Look, most coaches are going to do what Saban did to give his own team a leg up. That's what they're paid to do! So why should these openly biased coaches be allowed to vote?
There's no way in hell you can objectively put Stanford above OSU. The Cowboys won what was the best conference in the country statistically. They played the eighth-toughest schedule whereas Stanford played the 64th-toughest. The only reason Saban was able to get away with it is because the two teams have the same number of losses (1) — by EVERY OTHER METRIC, OSU is better.

It's fine if you think Alabama is the most deserving No. 2 team in the country. But it's ridiculous that a biased coach can deflate an opposing team's BCS rating. And it's even more ridiculous that the system allows him to.

Read more: http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011...s#ixzz1g0hMf5XF


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Re: Coaches Votes - Saban voted the Tide in? [Re: BowtechDan] #236106
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Originally Posted By: BowtechDan
Originally Posted By: BamaProud
Originally Posted By: BowtechDan
Did Grundy get a vote?


No
How the coaches voted

...how about the big 12 coaches that voted Alabama 3rd. Are they bias too?

Alabama is 3rd or 4th. They didn't even win their frackin' division!

Don't know. But they did play against OSU. Just sayin.


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Re: Coaches Votes - Saban voted the Tide in? [Re: DarnYankee] #236107
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Re: Coaches Votes - Saban voted the Tide in? [Re: DarnYankee] #236108
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OSU as #4 was the minority.


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Re: Coaches Votes - Saban voted the Tide in? [Re: BowtechDan] #236109
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Originally Posted By: BowtechDan
OSU as #4 was the minority.


So was OSU as #2.


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Re: Coaches Votes - Saban voted the Tide in? [Re: DarnYankee] #236111
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hate all you want.bama is in the game.osu needs to celebrate their FIRST big 12 championship and be happy.big 12 toughest conference? ONLY reason they finally won..texas down this ys.OK down this yr,nebraska gone.

Re: Coaches Votes - Saban voted the Tide in? [Re: BamaProud] #236112
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Originally Posted By: BamaProud

In the back door and laughin' all the way? Great gameplan - play a weak schedule, lose to #1, sit out and recuperate "Championship weekend" slide into the title game on biased voting and then hope for a miracle to beat LSU in the NC and "claim" a National Championship on the technicalities of a flawed system. Even if 'bama wins - LSU 13-1 against a very tough schedule, 'bama 12-1 against a weaksauce schedule = LSU National Champs! Unless you want to play two more games and win them both - LSU is the better team.


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Re: Coaches Votes - Saban voted the Tide in? [Re: DarnYankee] #236113
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want to know how weak the big 12 really is. who's the 2nd best team? Kansas st! how bout the 3rd best team? OMG they don't even have 12 teams anymore those posers!

Re: Coaches Votes - Saban voted the Tide in? [Re: BamaProud] #236114
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Originally Posted By: BamaProud
You inadvertently revealed your primary forecaster laugh


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Re: Coaches Votes - Saban voted the Tide in? [Re: DarnYankee] #236115
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just so you know. osu didn't play a conference championship game either.

Re: Coaches Votes - Saban voted the Tide in? [Re: DarnYankee] #236116
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Originally Posted By: DarnYankee
In the back door and laughin' all the way? Great gameplan - play a weak schedule, lose to #1, sit out and recuperate "Championship weekend" slide into the title game on biased voting and then hope for a miracle to beat LSU in the NC and "claim" a National Championship on the technicalities of a flawed system. Even if 'bama wins - LSU 13-1 against a very tough schedule, 'bama 12-1 against a weaksauce schedule = LSU National Champs! Unless you want to play two more games and win them both - LSU is the better team.


Is it hemorrhoids too, or just the most severe case of raw, burning redass ever?


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Re: Coaches Votes - Saban voted the Tide in? [Re: DarnYankee] #236118
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yea, cause he knows bamas gonna win

Re: Coaches Votes - Saban voted the Tide in? [Re: hunterbuck] #236119
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Originally Posted By: hunterbuck
Originally Posted By: DarnYankee
In the back door and laughin' all the way? Great gameplan - play a weak schedule, lose to #1, sit out and recuperate "Championship weekend" slide into the title game on biased voting and then hope for a miracle to beat LSU in the NC and "claim" a National Championship on the technicalities of a flawed system. Even if 'bama wins - LSU 13-1 against a very tough schedule, 'bama 12-1 against a weaksauce schedule = LSU National Champs! Unless you want to play two more games and win them both - LSU is the better team.


Is it hemorrhoids too, or just the most severe case of raw, burning redass ever?
Go back and research the years 'bama wasn't at the big dance and you'll see alot of the same monkey butt....


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Re: Coaches Votes - Saban voted the Tide in? [Re: DarnYankee] #236122
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My two cents:

There shouldn't even be a coach's poll. How many coaches have time to sit down and evaluate every team on a weekly basis? Answer - none of the do. If they do take the time, they are the same ones you will see on a TV set next season.

Re: Coaches Votes - Saban voted the Tide in? [Re: frezznh2o] #236123
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Originally Posted By: frezznh2o
just so you know. osu didn't play a conference championship game either.


he wont address that inconvenient fact.

His argument is deeply rooted in Confirmation Bias.


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Re: Coaches Votes - Saban voted the Tide in? [Re: DarnYankee] #236125
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did you ever think that maybe he thinks OSU is the 4th best team in the country and that Stanford is the 3rd? Guess Shaw from Stanford was out to get OSU by putting his team ahead of them on his ballot.

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Re: Coaches Votes - Saban voted the Tide in? [Re: DarnYankee] #236126
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Originally Posted By: DarnYankee
Interesting that 'ole Nick voted OSU fourth and so did the arse hurt coach of Missouri....


Interesting indeed. It must be a conspiracy involving ESPN and Saban. Starting now I will be boycotting the game AND taking my football with me.


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Re: Coaches Votes - Saban voted the Tide in? [Re: DarnYankee] #236138
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Darn Yankee has got it bad!!!!!! LMAO!!!!!!


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