I have just recently started hunting with a Super Black Eagle that I bought a few years ago. I can't argue that the AccuTip is the best slug out there but I can send you a video to show what it will do to a doe at 105 yards. There wasn't a complete pass through but I didn't expect it to be. I did shoot an 8 point a couple weeks ago that had complete pass through. It has become my go to gun when hunting with less than a 150 yard shot. 3 inches low at 25, 3 inches high at 100, and dead on at 150.

I killed a couple deer with the 3" copper solids from Remington in a 12.

Both one shot kills with pass through. One DRT and one ran maybe 50 yards with a decent blood trail.

They do however kick like a dang mule.

Ikillbux is right about the scope. I started with a Vx2 1-4x20 Shotgun Scope and have upgraded to a 3-9x40 now my 20 gauge Ultra Slug hunter is just as accurate as a rifle.

Thanks for the scoop help. I’ll definitely look into the higher power scopes you guys suggested. Do I need to search for one that is made for shotguns or is a standard rifle scope sufficient? I am considering a new scope for my rifle and I currently use a Leupiold VX2, 4-12x50. Would that be suitable or overkill for a pump shotgun?

I have a regular Vx2 with a heavy duplex on mine. Not knocking a 50 mm I just prefer 40 or 44 mm scope on my guns.

I use a Savage 220f with 2.75” AccuTips, and could not ask for a better combo. I’ve never had a deer go more than 40 yards after one well-placed shot (crease behind front shoulder).

The size wouldn't be overkill (well, not totally), but that's a high dollar scope for a slug gun! LOL

Like I said, I have a 4-12x40 Nikon Prostaff BDC on one (about a $200 scope) and a 3-9x50 Nikon Buckmasters BDC on one (about a $150 scope). Just normal ol' rifle scopes. All I've used for 25 years on slug guns. There is NO need for the supposed longer eye relief of a "slug" scope in my opinion. I just dislike the smaller sizes of all the specialized slug scopes.

From someone (with multiple pals’ of data as well) who has tried (on deer) most every 20 and 12 gauge slug out there, you will regret it if you go 20 gauge. Unless you are someone who is super sensitive to recoil and cant shoot the 12 accurately due to flinching, there is no good reason to give up so much kinetic energy when dealing with projectiles that are so inferior to rifle bullets to begin with.

Not sure if you have the new production A-bolt or the legacy one, but the new ones shoot the 3” accutips into a ragged hole at 100 yards (4 of 4 guns between me and pals all will do it). We have killed quite a few now and I only know of one slug that was recovered and I shot it through a bunch of length of big bodied buck. It still weighs 371 out of 385 grains. The blood trails are awesome though they havent been needed yet as I dont think we have had a deer make it out of sight yet. I know my son and I havent.

If you havent done it already, a Limbsaver pad will help tremendously with the recoil. The pads that come on the A-bolts are hard as a brick and SUCK.

My two cents. YMMV

My buddies and I have this argument regularly (they love 12's). My stance on it is I don't have anything against the 12, but I've had the same killing experience with the 20 for going on 15 years now. Have killed deer (DRT, never flinched) at 155, 170, and 187 yards. Just guessing, I'd say 97/100 deer, regardless of distance and variables, were complete pass thrus. Shot a good buck at "about" 100 yards quartering strongly away from me, entered the back hip and the slug was bulging under the skin on the opposing front shoulder. That deer was total slush on the inside. That was with the old Winchester Partition Gold 3" 20ga (2000FPS), I have the slug in my gun case, it's a PERFECT flower with 100% retention.

I've never had a problem in my life with a slug (12 or 20) until I started shooting AccuTips last year. EVERY deer I've shot with them barely acted hit and ran long distances. Yes, they bled like a chainsaw massacre, but still. The ONLY response anybody can ever come up with is "shoot a 12ga instead". My point is it isn't a 20 vs 12 argument, it's a lousy round (at least in the 20ga version).

I noticed something at the range last week... I shot some Federals, Winchesters, and Hornadys. All of them were a crisp, HARD, and loud BANG!!!!! Dust flies behind the target at the instant of trigger pull. The AccuTips are a "soft", mushy shot, not as loud and less recoil. There is a delayed "pop" on the target after the sound of the shot. I think Remington is LYING about the speed of those slugs!!!!! A slow slug is an accurate slug, and the one thing they are is accurate. I just think they are slow with little kinetic energy. I think the words I'm looking for is hydrostatic shock.

I use a Savage 220, Nikon Slugmaster scope and 2 3/4 accutips on my Virginia hunts. Very accurate and it doesn't kick like a mule. It has the feel of a rifle but with a big barrel.

I use Federal Trophy Copper 275 grain in my 220F.

I love this 20 gauge.
Shoots like a rifle.
Is very light weight.

I have a Leupold VX-R in 3x9x40 on it.

Killed a nice 8 with it on Monday.

Brenneke slugs http://www.brennekeusa.com/hunting-ammunition/classic-magnumtm/ Love them hit like a hammer!

Hasting cantilever barrel on my 870.

Rifle bullets are deflected by brush. One ounce of lead(slug) won't.

Took my Savage back to the range this afternoon, think I might've found a new slug that works for me. Lightfield Hybred Mag EL 20. It's a 3" 20ga running 1700FPS with a 385gr slug. That's a HEAVY slug for a 20ga, but it groups tight and I suspect it hits like a loaded coal train.

Did you get a chance to use that slug?

I have had savage 210 for years. Use to use Remington buck hammers but switched to sst’s Much less recoil and better groups at a 100 yards. Killed deer at 180 steps this year. Wish I had a neeeer one with detachable clip but I’ve killed too many animals with this one to switch now for a little convenience lol