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Re: Q: Are Hunters Who Tag Out Better? [Re: Carlos] #2409860
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Originally Posted by Carlos
Also, they are hard core traditionalists, they don't use scopes (bead only) and always carry a box call.



why yes we do.....


I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....

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Re: Q: Are Hunters Who Tag Out Better? [Re: BhamFred] #2409874
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Originally Posted by BhamFred
Originally Posted by Carlos
Also, they are hard core traditionalists, they don't use scopes (bead only) and always carry a box call.



why yes we do.....

not only do we carry them,but we make em too!


I would rather be turkey hunting
Re: Q: Are Hunters Who Tag Out Better? [Re: BamaGuitarDude] #2409901
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Yes you do!


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Re: Q: Are Hunters Who Tag Out Better? [Re: Atoler] #2410020
02/16/18 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Atoler
Originally Posted by Gobble4me757

Originally Posted by Atoler
Originally Posted by Gobble4me757
Also, those who only hunt public land tend to get to know where the birds like to go and all after years of hunting the same public land, so while they are tough turkeys to hunt/takes a different strategy, I don’t consider them too much different than those who only hunt private land. I don’t think killing a limit says how good a Hunter you are because I know people who are terrible at hunting that kill 3 or so a year because they are overrun with birds. Do I think Alabama hunters who consistently kill birds to be among the best with Mississippi hunters? Absolutely...I also think you can tell who the killers are are the ones who consistently kill the 3 plus year old dominant birds...a lot of the times also they are the ones who have the most respect towards a bird as well as the ones who do the least bragging...there are a lot of guys on here such as some of the ones Jughead mentioned (even BrentM lol) that are stone cold killers, and I appreciate the wisdom they have shared through this forum.


Do these stone cold killers that kill all the 3+ year old birds, let the young ones walk? Do you check Spurs like whild Bill? One of the dumber things I've heard on this forum. I can assure you, whether a man kills 5 long spurred birds or 5 two year olds is simply a roll of the dice.

To answer the op's question, yes, I think people who kill a limit every year are better hunters. I'm sure there are some exceptions. Time, land, and skill all play into it, but these guys killing 5-10 even 15 birds year in and year out don't completely luck into it.


Man idk what’s gotten you so fired up but to answer your question, yea I hunt with one who every year calls in birds yet doesn’t kill them because they are younger birds...me? Nah I just kill em, but also you misinterpreted what I was saying...I was saying these are the guys that enjoy hearing about a bird that no one can kill and going in and killing him.


Been a long day, I apologize for being pissy. Maybe I'm misunderstanding you to some extent, but how does your buddy know they are young birds? Maybe you all just have better eyes than me.


No worries my man..He judges them by the beards (I know not indicative but he's older and set in his ways lol), another guy who is a stone cold killer (limits every year just about and is one of the best turkey hunters I've seen) he passes on 2 year olds as well...I haven't asked how he tells, but he will take pictures of them instead...like I said, I don't have Wild BIll's ability and when I drive an hour plus to the hunting camp only getting to hunt a couple of weekends, if it gobbles and isn't a jake...it dies...


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Re: Q: Are Hunters Who Tag Out Better? [Re: Gobble4me757] #2410031
02/16/18 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Gobble4me757
if it gobbles, struts, beats up other birds & my dekes ... it dies...


FIFY ... my rule - i'm a turkey beggar, not a turkey chooser ... my GOAL is to shoot the monster 12 y.o. stud birds ... it don't always work out that way ...

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Re: Q: Are Hunters Who Tag Out Better? [Re: BamaGuitarDude] #2410428
02/16/18 07:56 PM
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I once killed a 2 year old gobbler that weighed 22 lbs, had a thick 10" beard, and 1" spurs. I would have thought he was an older turkey, but the amber in the end of his beard gave him away. I don't know of any certain characteristic that one could use to age a gobbler that is 2 or older without killing him. Size tells you nothing, beard length tells you very little, and even the spurs give only a limited clue. If he has 1.5" spurs then he has to be an older bird, but having spurs less than 1" doesn't prove that he isn't older.

But I think it's a great thing for other hunters to feel smart and say they are passing on 2 yr old birds. I'd be happy to shoot him the next day. smile


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Re: Q: Are Hunters Who Tag Out Better? [Re: BrentM] #2410488
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Originally Posted by BrentM
Originally Posted by N2TRKYS
With good land, even I can limit out. I've killed a couple of limits with all double beards.


That takes Whild Bill skills and patience to let the single beards walk and just focus on multi-beard tactics! That’s awesome!


Just luck of the draw. The area I was hunting had a bunch of double bearded birds. Wish I could say I planned it that way. Lol


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Re: Q: Are Hunters Who Tag Out Better? [Re: poorcountrypreacher] #2410699
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Originally Posted by poorcountrypreacher


But I think it's a great thing for other hunters to feel smart and say they are passing on 2 yr old birds. I'd be happy to shoot him the next day. smile


It has been said and so shall it be written!

We can't all have BrentM's innate ability to determine if a strutting gobbling longbeard is a 2 or 3 year old......


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Re: Q: Are Hunters Who Tag Out Better? [Re: GomerPyle] #2411682
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Originally Posted by GomerPyle
I think it's a combination of being better "woodsman" and having "better land".............I also think it's a sliding scale that varies from hunter to hunter. I know some people that I honest-to-God don't think are particularly great turkey hunters who kill the crap out of birds. They also happen to have sole hunting rights to private land that is covered in birds where I'm convinced even I could limit out under the same circumstances.



A lot of truth spoken here. I hunted my Uncles land back in the late 90's early 2000's and actually limited out twice. I got schooled a lot but learned a lot. The habitat got destroyed by a big fire and nowhere remotely close to recovering, even now after 15 years. Since I've hunted several clubs with different land features with limited success. I cut my teeth on hunting pastureland and am quite good at it. Hunting woods whether it's big hardwoods or pines is a totally different ballgame. Turkey hunting is ever changing and one has to learn to adapt to have success. I learn every time I go. Patience is key.


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