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Re: Rumor coming thru.. (Baiting Bill) [Re: teamduckdown] #2429924
03/09/18 02:41 PM
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The NPA (national plotter association) done broke out the big cash!!!

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Re: Rumor coming thru.. (Baiting Bill) [Re: Hogwild] #2429982
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Originally Posted by Hogwild
Originally Posted by James
Rumor is the bill is pretty much dead. Biologist lobbied against it and got the votes knocked down...


I heard the same.

But, I still have not heard an Official word on that.
Nor have I heard any Official Statement from the DCNR dissuading (much less banning) Supplemental Feeding.

Evidently, prions somehow know the difference??


That's pretty funny Danny and spot on! For those that didnt read between the lines:

And that right there proves the whole supplemental feeding BS rule we currently have is both politically and $$ driven. If the "biologists" are so dang concerned about deer transmitting disease at feed stations due to the recent discovery of CWD in MS, where is the new law calling for the immediate banning of all supplemental feeding in AL. Certainly there are not 2 different standards being applied here, are there?

Re: Rumor coming thru.. (Baiting Bill) [Re: abolt300] #2429989
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Originally Posted by abolt300
Originally Posted by Hogwild
Originally Posted by James
Rumor is the bill is pretty much dead. Biologist lobbied against it and got the votes knocked down...


I heard the same.

But, I still have not heard an Official word on that.
Nor have I heard any Official Statement from the DCNR dissuading (much less banning) Supplemental Feeding.

Evidently, prions somehow know the difference??


That's pretty funny Danny and spot on! For those that didnt read between the lines:

And that right there proves the whole supplemental feeding BS rule we currently have is both politically and $$ driven. If the "biologists" are so dang concerned about deer transmitting disease at feed stations due to the recent discovery of CWD in MS, where is the new law calling for the immediate banning of all supplemental feeding in AL. Certainly there are not 2 different standards being applied here, are there?


GREAT point. If the biologists are against hunting over bait, then they should be opposed to the current supplemental rule.

Re: Rumor coming thru.. (Baiting Bill) [Re: teamduckdown] #2430003
03/09/18 04:20 PM
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Regulation that defines hunters area as it relates to the bait law, which hunters use to do their supplemental feeding(hunter term) is a DCNR rule

Re: Rumor coming thru.. (Baiting Bill) [Re: ] #2430010
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Originally Posted by sgtred
Regulation that defines hunters area as it relates to the bait law, which hunters use to do their supplemental feeding(hunter term) is a DCNR rule


I think that we both agree that a Legal Regulation, nor Law, should be in place about this that can be dependent on the Growth Stage of the Native Vegetation. If a feeder is legally placed when the woods are full of leaves and greenery in October. Then it should still e legal in January after the vegetation dies and the leaves fall off.

Re: Rumor coming thru.. (Baiting Bill) [Re: teamduckdown] #2430021
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Also, I think that all of the Politics and deal making going on behind the scenes right is ridiculous!
It is also hypocritical of anyone in the DCNR to complain about Politics with the way things have been run the past few years. You are now an OFFICIAL part of the Machine! LOL

It will be back on the floor next week.
I feel sure that someone will 'give' a little somewhere and there will be an amendment, though.

Re: Rumor coming thru.. (Baiting Bill) [Re: teamduckdown] #2430023
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I would imagine that SB271 is involved in the negotiation, too.

And, since that Committee passed HB21 right on through......It is coming one way or the other.

Politics are dirty business........

Re: Rumor coming thru.. (Baiting Bill) [Re: teamduckdown] #2430034
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I don't know if we agree or don't agree, I was just pointing out the different entities that passed or didn't pass what rules. Legislature passed bait law as currently exists in 1972 I believe,and the legislature is currently debating, voting on, passing or letting die a new law concerning baiting. The DCNR promulgated a regulation that defines the hunters area in the current bait law. Just pointing out which entity did what, don't have an opinion for or against new law or said politics you refer too

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Re: Rumor coming thru.. (Baiting Bill) [Re: teamduckdown] #2430041
03/09/18 05:35 PM
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What is the difference in sb271 and hb21?

Hb has a fee associated and sb doesn’t??

Re: Rumor coming thru.. (Baiting Bill) [Re: teamduckdown] #2430094
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Who’s sig line is “hunting politics is stupid”? I think that about sums it up. In Alabama baiting is the hot issue. In NC and SC I can’t figure out why hunting on public land on Sunday is illegal but you can hunt on private on Sunday. In both cases it’s messed up like a soup sammich. Facts don’t really matter, it’s all about if the right pockets get lined.

Re: Rumor coming thru.. (Baiting Bill) [Re: teamduckdown] #2430122
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Has the question been answered of which would produce more money for the state?......catching illegal baiters at $500 a pop or requiring a permit at $15 a pop? As everybody knows...always follow the money...

Re: Rumor coming thru.. (Baiting Bill) [Re: canvasback] #2430126
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Originally Posted by canvasback
Has the question been answered of which would produce more money for the state?......catching illegal baiters at $500 a pop or requiring a permit at $15 a pop? As everybody knows...always follow the money...


Id guess the 15 dollar fee.

Re: Rumor coming thru.. (Baiting Bill) [Re: teamduckdown] #2430129
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SB271 will place the DCNR under the Dept of Ag & Forestry.....whose Committee voted to recommend HB21 (Baiting Bill) for passage by the Senate.

Re: Rumor coming thru.. (Baiting Bill) [Re: Hogwild] #2430140
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Originally Posted by Hogwild
SB271 will place the DCNR under the Dept of Ag & Forestry.....whose Committee voted to recommend HB21 (Baiting Bill) for passage by the Senate.



I didn’t see the fee along with sb271

Re: Rumor coming thru.. (Baiting Bill) [Re: teamduckdown] #2430146
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All the while this happnin........im over here in MARSHALL COUNTY............heeeeeellllllllloooooooo.......anybody out there wanna come make me sum tukeez....gobble gobblee......ohhhhhhh nobody cares....one day.... frown


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Re: Rumor coming thru.. (Baiting Bill) [Re: teamduckdown] #2430380
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It’s all about the money

Re: Rumor coming thru.. (Baiting Bill) [Re: teamduckdown] #2430400
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I wouldn't say that. The 15.00 fee would have to blow the tickets out of the water wouldn't it?

Re: Rumor coming thru.. (Baiting Bill) [Re: teamduckdown] #2430483
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I'd guess the $15 will produce a lot more revenue for the dept than $500 fine monies ever will.


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Re: Rumor coming thru.. (Baiting Bill) [Re: teamduckdown] #2430513
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who gives a shucks, bait no -no bait, most folks gona do what they want to !!!!

Re: Rumor coming thru.. (Baiting Bill) [Re: canvasback] #2430596
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Our government has limited powers by nature, so it tends to hoard what few powers the people have given it. Once government has the right to stop people from doing something they want to do, it almost never hands it back to the people for free. Why does Alabama have a 56% tax on liquor? Because during prohibition we voted to allow the state to take away our right to drink alcohol. And then when we wanted it back, the state said ok, but you will have to pay for it. The state is not going to freely give us back a right to bait deer without a significant revenue opportunity.

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