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Re: Rumor coming thru.. (Baiting Bill)
[Re: lefthorn]
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03/20/18 02:27 PM
03/20/18 02:27 PM
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Fairhope
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that was a vote to adopt the BIR(budge resolution). The actual vote has not happened. Oh, ok. So when does actually voting happen? When these guys shut the hell up and allow a vote. Lol!! Haha...no crap
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Re: Rumor coming thru.. (Baiting Bill)
[Re: teamduckdown]
#2440007
03/20/18 02:37 PM
03/20/18 02:37 PM
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jawbone
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Let's play a game. For every legislative action there are almost always unintended consequences, That is why it is called the Law of Unintended Consequences.
So let's see who can predict some of the unintended consequences. First off... corn prices going up. Both feed corn for obvious reasons, but also more people that used to produce human consumption corn will now switch to the more lucrative feed corn so human consumption corn will go up. Law of Supply and Demand. I'm not talking about Bird'seye frozen since I don't think this will impact what they do in Iowa but your local produce market Silver Queen.
Secondly, hunting will be harder because the deer will be able to get all they want at night so there will be no need for much daylight movement. The next action resulting from that will be people crying that there are no deer because they never see them like they used to. At best, they will be even more nocturnal than they are now.
Personally, I don't think I will ever celebrate an additional tax or fee on something that the State Constitution says is a Right. This same logic is used to argue against CCW permit fees. While I realize I don't have to buy a corning permit, I hunt with several other people and all it takes is one and we all have to do it.
Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
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Re: Rumor coming thru.. (Baiting Bill)
[Re: jawbone]
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03/20/18 02:48 PM
03/20/18 02:48 PM
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lefthorn
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Secondly, hunting will be harder because the deer will be able to get all they want at night so there will be no need for much daylight movement. The next action resulting from that will be people crying that there are no deer because they never see them like they used to. At best, they will be even more nocturnal than they are now.
Your other two reasons I could consider valid, however, this argument is dumb and always has been. What about the greenfields that everyone plants? Aren’t they available 24 hours of the day? Or do they close up shop at dark?
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Re: Rumor coming thru.. (Baiting Bill)
[Re: lefthorn]
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03/20/18 02:51 PM
03/20/18 02:51 PM
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jawbone
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Secondly, hunting will be harder because the deer will be able to get all they want at night so there will be no need for much daylight movement. The next action resulting from that will be people crying that there are no deer because they never see them like they used to. At best, they will be even more nocturnal than they are now.
Your other two reasons I could consider valid, however, this argument is dumb and always has been. What about the greenfields that everyone plants? Aren’t they available 24 hours of the day? Or do they close up shop at dark? Kill a deer or two off of a greenfield and see what happens.
Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
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Re: Rumor coming thru.. (Baiting Bill)
[Re: jawbone]
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03/20/18 02:53 PM
03/20/18 02:53 PM
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btfl
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Secondly, hunting will be harder because the deer will be able to get all they want at night so there will be no need for much daylight movement. The next action resulting from that will be people crying that there are no deer because they never see them like they used to. At best, they will be even more nocturnal than they are now.
Your other two reasons I could consider valid, however, this argument is dumb and always has been. What about the greenfields that everyone plants? Aren’t they available 24 hours of the day? Or do they close up shop at dark? Kill a deer or two off of a greenfield and see what happens. I have. They come back the next day and give you an opportunity to shoot another one.
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Re: Rumor coming thru.. (Baiting Bill)
[Re: jawbone]
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03/20/18 02:53 PM
03/20/18 02:53 PM
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Fl_Cracker
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[. First off... corn prices going up. Both feed corn for obvious reasons, but also more people that used to produce human consumption corn will now switch to the more lucrative feed corn so human consumption corn will go up. Law of Supply and Demand. I'm not talking about Bird'seye frozen since I don't think this will impact what they do in Iowa but your local produce market Silver Queen. Nah Let's play a game. For every legislative action there are almost always unintended consequences, That is why it is called the Law of Unintended Consequences.
So let's see who can predict some of the unintended consequences. First off... corn prices going up. Both feed corn for obvious reasons, but also more people that used to produce human consumption corn will now switch to the more lucrative feed corn so human consumption corn will go up. Law of Supply and Demand. I'm not talking about Bird'seye frozen since I don't think this will impact what they do in Iowa but your local produce market Silver Queen.
Secondly, hunting will be harder because the deer will be able to get all they want at night so there will be no need for much daylight movement. The next action resulting from that will be people crying that there are no deer because they never see them like they used to. At best, they will be even more nocturnal than they are now.
Still about pressure and who care who's crying .
Personally, I don't think I will ever celebrate an additional tax or fee on something that the State Constitution says is a Right. This same logic is used to argue against CCW permit fees. While I realize I don't have to buy a corning permit, I hunt with several other people and all it takes is one and we all have to do it. With you on this one completely agree .
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Re: Rumor coming thru.. (Baiting Bill)
[Re: jawbone]
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03/20/18 02:54 PM
03/20/18 02:54 PM
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Fun4all
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Let's play a game. For every legislative action there are almost always unintended consequences, That is why it is called the Law of Unintended Consequences.
So let's see who can predict some of the unintended consequences. First off... corn prices going up. Both feed corn for obvious reasons, but also more people that used to produce human consumption corn will now switch to the more lucrative feed corn so human consumption corn will go up. Law of Supply and Demand. I'm not talking about Bird'seye frozen since I don't think this will impact what they do in Iowa but your local produce market Silver Queen.
Secondly, hunting will be harder because the deer will be able to get all they want at night so there will be no need for much daylight movement. The next action resulting from that will be people crying that there are no deer because they never see them like they used to. At best, they will be even more nocturnal than they are now.
Personally, I don't think I will ever celebrate an additional tax or fee on something that the State Constitution says is a Right. This same logic is used to argue against CCW permit fees. While I realize I don't have to buy a corning permit, I hunt with several other people and all it takes is one and we all have to do it. To add, although these are also intended consequences that is not be said. Reduced limits, shorter seasons, mandatory tags because more deer are being killed, less sighting means less deer in obviously many peoples minds because they aren't seeing them in their same old places that they sit every weekend. Hunting becomes closer to market hunting thereby requiring more regulations and rules. But don't let the intended and unintended consequences get in the way of groveling at politicians feet that have not a clue what they are voting on, but will do anything to get elected. Might as well get rid of the DCNR if politicians are going to micromanage at the loudest whiners whim.
Last edited by Fun4all; 03/20/18 02:59 PM.
"After all, it is not the killing that brings satisfaction; it is the contest of skill and cunning. The true hunter counts his achievement in proportion to the effort involved and the fairness of the sport." Dr. Saxton Pope
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Re: Rumor coming thru.. (Baiting Bill)
[Re: teamduckdown]
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03/20/18 02:56 PM
03/20/18 02:56 PM
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jacannon
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The only change I see is not having to look over your shoulder and wonder how a game warden is going to interpret the law. This has always smelled like entrapment to me.
Grandma said...Always keep a gun close at hand, you just never know when you might run across some varmint that needs killing...
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Re: Rumor coming thru.. (Baiting Bill)
[Re: jawbone]
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03/20/18 02:57 PM
03/20/18 02:57 PM
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Banana Republic
jb20
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Secondly, hunting will be harder because the deer will be able to get all they want at night so there will be no need for much daylight movement. The next action resulting from that will be people crying that there are no deer because they never see them like they used to. At best, they will be even more nocturnal than they are now.
Your other two reasons I could consider valid, however, this argument is dumb and always has been. What about the greenfields that everyone plants? Aren’t they available 24 hours of the day? Or do they close up shop at dark? Kill a deer or two off of a greenfield and see what happens. I dont think it will affect em much all my deer r nocturnal anyway less its end January
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.
Ben Franklin
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Re: Rumor coming thru.. (Baiting Bill)
[Re: jawbone]
#2440043
03/20/18 02:57 PM
03/20/18 02:57 PM
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Chelsea, AL
lefthorn
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Secondly, hunting will be harder because the deer will be able to get all they want at night so there will be no need for much daylight movement. The next action resulting from that will be people crying that there are no deer because they never see them like they used to. At best, they will be even more nocturnal than they are now.
Your other two reasons I could consider valid, however, this argument is dumb and always has been. What about the greenfields that everyone plants? Aren’t they available 24 hours of the day? Or do they close up shop at dark? Kill a deer or two off of a greenfield and see what happens. I’m not going to argue pressure, that is not what was said. What was said was that now with corn, they will have access to food 24/7. What about acorns, honeysuckle, briars, whatever the goats want to eat. It is already available 24/7.
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Re: Rumor coming thru.. (Baiting Bill)
[Re: lefthorn]
#2440044
03/20/18 02:57 PM
03/20/18 02:57 PM
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Hoover
burbank
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So the bill is being carried over, whatever that means Carried to the next session I think. Pretty much dead for now.
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Re: Rumor coming thru.. (Baiting Bill)
[Re: teamduckdown]
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03/20/18 02:59 PM
03/20/18 02:59 PM
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coffee county
goodman_hunter
Booner
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Booner
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sounds like some folks are scared they're gonna lose their advantage
"A moment of realization is worth a thousand prayers"
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Re: Rumor coming thru.. (Baiting Bill)
[Re: lefthorn]
#2440060
03/20/18 03:09 PM
03/20/18 03:09 PM
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Dale County, AL
Groundhawg
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So the bill is being carried over, whatever that means CARRIED OVER. Term used to describe a motion on which action has been postponed on a legislative matter. Bills not disposed of on that legislative day are carried over in the same order to the next day's calendar. Though the term is most often use to carry over a bill to the next day it can and often is used to kill a bill for a given legislative term when the lawmakers do not want to deprive the folks on the alder forum of a topic that they can discuss, argue, and fuss about for at least another 12 months. At the end of almost every legislative session, bills remain upon which final action has not been taken. For example, a bill may have passed the house but not have emerged from a senate committee for a final vote. Another way that legislative chambers accelerate bill processing is by allowing bills to carry over from the first year of a biennium to the second. This procedure saves a good deal of time, effort and cost. Carryover bills do not need to be redrafted, and they often retain their place on the floor or in committee.
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Re: Rumor coming thru.. (Baiting Bill)
[Re: lefthorn]
#2440068
03/20/18 03:17 PM
03/20/18 03:17 PM
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pcamper
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I don’t understand why they didn’t vote on it today? Give em brake, they already worked 3 hours today, they’re exhausted. Calling it a day.
Lone Watie: I'm glad you stopped me when you did. I might have killed her
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Re: Rumor coming thru.. (Baiting Bill)
[Re: btfl]
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03/20/18 03:24 PM
03/20/18 03:24 PM
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Fayetteville TN Via Selma
jawbone
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Secondly, hunting will be harder because the deer will be able to get all they want at night so there will be no need for much daylight movement. The next action resulting from that will be people crying that there are no deer because they never see them like they used to. At best, they will be even more nocturnal than they are now.
Your other two reasons I could consider valid, however, this argument is dumb and always has been. What about the greenfields that everyone plants? Aren’t they available 24 hours of the day? Or do they close up shop at dark? Kill a deer or two off of a greenfield and see what happens. I have. They come back the next day and give you an opportunity to shoot another one. Your deer are stupider than ours. There is a reason many biologist recommend not shooting does off of foodplots.
Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
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