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Re: Sodomite preacher spinoff
[Re: poorcountrypreacher]
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04/13/18 01:46 AM
04/13/18 01:46 AM
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Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 26,512 Fayetteville TN Via Selma
jawbone
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Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 26,512
Fayetteville TN Via Selma
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Preachers, teachers and police officers should (no, must be) held to a higher standard. We used to demand that of those professionals and they accepted it when they took the job Now we just shrug our collective shoulders and say, well there goes another one. There may be no such thing as ghosts, but I promise you there are evil demons, and they will work hard to bring down our role models if we don't join the fight. All 3 of those jobs require a calling, imo. You don't do them because you want to, but because you have to. I guess this view isn't shared by many now. Sadly many of our new generation are interested in these professions because in their minds: preachers work on Sundays and Wednesday, funeral days and the occasional Saturday wedding, Police Officers are guys that get to ride around all day, play with guns and exert their authority to the public because they can and have uniform chasers after them all the time, teachers have an easy job and only have to do it 9 mos. out of the year. None of these are true, but they only find out once they have gotten into one of the professions and not live up to the standards set by those that came before them. They went into for an easy job, but like Preacher said. It has to be a calling.
Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
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Re: Sodomite preacher spinoff
[Re: jawbone]
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04/13/18 08:57 AM
04/13/18 08:57 AM
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Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 3,238 Sterrett, AL, USA
stkshtr
10 point
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10 point
Joined: Sep 2002
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I'm sure jawbone was joking but I can assure you preachers work a lot more than people think. For instance, I was at lunch with my brother (a pastor) this week and he got 4 phone calls in that short time from different people. He told me it's like that every day all day. People complaining, wanting advice, need someone to talk with, funerals, weddings and so forth. Just me being a chaplain I stay busy listening to people and helping different ways. My friends all the time ask me where I get the time to do all that I do and I always say, you'll find the time to do what you feel called to do. I hate that these preachers and youth pastors are doing the things that they do but we need to remember they are only humans and still make mistakes. I agree that we, as ministers, should definitely be held to a higher standard because of our leadership and impact on peoples' lives. The flip coin is we also get caught up in false accusations because of divorces that want to accuse us because we talked with their spouse and also people who just have a hard heart toward God and those who minister in general. I've experienced it and most all ministers I know have too. We deal with a lot of peoples' personal issues and have to be careful not to carry "victim's remorse" with us. Many don't have someone to talk to themselves to get things off their chest that they have to deal with. I personally have 2 people I confide in and can do so without telling them who it's about and keep confidentiality in tact. I truly believe some of the "fallen" have done so because of the issues they deal with because of the nature of their business. They let it boil up and finally have to find an outlet and many times rather than counseling or talking to someone, they use alcohol, drugs or sex.
CISM- Firefighter Chaplain-C.E.R.T. Instructor Refuel Ministries-HAM (KM4LBG)
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Re: Sodomite preacher spinoff
[Re: jawbone]
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04/13/18 05:36 PM
04/13/18 05:36 PM
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ford150man
Old Mossy Horns
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I read above, and have heard a whole lot, about "wolves in sheeps clothing". The problem is, most congregations get so high on their pastor, that they tend to look away at bad behavior by pastors and use the "wolf in sheeps clothing" verse, when speaking of other churches. Many on here know I have hard feelings towards churches, and I'm actually working on that and praying about it. It's hard for me to feel much sympathy towards pastors though. In the past, I've had several dealings with preachers, with regards to doing construction projects for them and their churches. Probably 6 or 7. No exaggeration, EVERY SINGLE ONE, tried to cheat me out of money, lied to me, or talked to me like trash. Didn't matter if it was big churches or small ones, black or white. It's like many of them feel a sense of entitlement to free stuff or be able to be treated different. I've had to threaten to have a pastor locked up once for not paying me. I called another one down for literally scanning a contract and changing the wording in Microsoft Word, after it had been signed and the work done. Another time, I was looking at work with a pastor of a big church in Decatur and he was talking to me like I was pure trash. This was just the initial phase of looking at the job!!! I looked at him and asked, if I weren't a Christian, how do you think I'd view churches as a whole after listening to you speak to me the way you have? I left and refused to give him a price for the work he wanted done. Lots of other bad blood between me and preachers for me to put much stock in them. The best ones I can think of, are the country preachers that work a full time job and preach on the side. The fellow that performed mine and the wife's wedding ceremony, was a coal miner. Another one that I highly respect is a construction worker that digs footings. There are a few more but those are the type of guys that are in it, in my opinion, because they "have too". To say pastors of today don't make much money, well, maybe not some but six figure salaries for preachers are getting more common than folks think.
If voting made any difference, they wouldn’t let us do it.-Mark Twain
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