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Re: Burbank [Re: bobwallace] #2463234
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Originally Posted by bobwallace


Well played.... More than any member of Aldeer


(Not true, btw)

Re: Burbank [Re: jbc] #2463298
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I don’t see a problem here. They beat Bama and won the West. Isn’t that what they hope to accomplish every season?

Meanwhile in Tuscaloosa.


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Re: Burbank [Re: jbc] #2463486
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A fan base laughing about something that their team has done in the past..... slap


I had much rather be tried by twelve than carried to my grave by six!!!!

Re: Burbank [Re: jbc] #2463506
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Originally Posted by jbc
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lol.


I was just pointing out that the ring was not factually correct. Alabama and Auburn both won the West but Auburn went to Atlanta on a tie breaker due to the head to head win.


I think the tiebreaker means they won the west



A lot of people think that but that's not how it works. Multiple teams can win the title (Much like Auburn and Tennessee shared the regular season basketball title this season). Alabama and Auburn tied for 1'st in the West with identical 7-1 conference records. Auburn represented the West in the SECCG due to the tiebreaker for head to head win.

Think of it this way.... there is no need for a tie breaker if there is no tie.


If you don't believe me though, here are the final West standings. (Check out the x in the legend)


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Re: Burbank [Re: BC] #2463507
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Here's a list of every Divisional winner since 1992


Year

Eastern Division Champion(s) Western Division Champion(s)

1992 Florida*, Georgia Alabama
1993 Florida Alabama†
1994 Florida Alabama
1995 Florida Arkansas
1996 Florida Alabama*, LSU
1997 Tennessee Auburn*, LSU
1998 Tennessee Mississippi State*, Arkansas
1999 Florida Alabama
2000 Florida Auburn
2001 Tennessee LSU*, Auburn
2002 Georgia Arkansas*‡, Auburn, LSU
2003 Georgia*, Florida, Tennessee LSU*, Mississippi
2004 Tennessee Auburn
2005 Georgia LSU*, Auburn
2006 Florida Arkansas
2007 Tennessee*, Georgia LSU
2008 Florida Alabama
2009 Florida Alabama
2010 South Carolina Auburn
2011 Georgia LSU
2012 Georgia*, Florida Alabama
2013 Missouri Auburn*, Alabama
2014 Missouri Alabama
2015 Florida Alabama
2016 Florida Alabama
2017 Georgia Auburn*, Alabama

* denotes tie-break winner and subsequent division representative to the SEC Championship Game.
† in 1993 Auburn finished first in the West standings but was ineligible due to NCAA probation and postseason ban.


Not to take anything away or denigrate Auburn. They definitely earned their title game appearance and I tip my hat to them for beating the #1 team twice to get to Atlanta.


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Re: Burbank [Re: jbc] #2463580
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Nice. Did not realize that’s all the tiebreaker did

Re: Burbank [Re: jbc] #2463638
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Go Gators!


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Re: Burbank [Re: jmudler] #2463654
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Originally Posted by jmudler
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Go Gators!



Mmmmmmmm .583 in SECCG appearances. laugh


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Re: Burbank [Re: jmudler] #2463720
04/19/18 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by jmudler
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Go Gators!



Is that a list of Championship game appearances? If so, it is wrong. Mississippi has never been there. The other totals are wrong too.

Re: Burbank [Re: doekiller] #2463740
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Originally Posted by doekiller



Is that a list of Championship game appearances? If so, it is wrong. Mississippi has never been there. The other totals are wrong too.


divisional - its the list BC posted above

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Re: Burbank [Re: BC] #2463741
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Originally Posted by BC
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Go Gators!



Mmmmmmmm .583 in SECCG appearances. laugh



We need to hire Gus.......not


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Re: Burbank [Re: jmudler] #2463749
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Originally Posted by jmudler
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Originally Posted by jmudler
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Go Gators!



Mmmmmmmm .583 in SECCG appearances. laugh



We need to hire Gus.......not



lol..... don't do that. Y'all got a way better coach now than that clown.


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Re: Burbank [Re: jmudler] #2463769
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Originally Posted by jmudler
Originally Posted by doekiller



Is that a list of Championship game appearances? If so, it is wrong. Mississippi has never been there. The other totals are wrong too.


divisional - its the list BC posted above



Gotcha, so it includes ties that were now with a tie breaker. IT still isn't correct. Ole Miss has never tied for first in the west. MSU has, Ole Miss, never.

Re: Burbank [Re: doekiller] #2463827
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Originally Posted by doekiller
Originally Posted by jmudler
Originally Posted by doekiller



Is that a list of Championship game appearances? If so, it is wrong. Mississippi has never been there. The other totals are wrong too.


divisional - its the list BC posted above



Gotcha, so it includes ties that were now with a tie breaker. IT still isn't correct. Ole Miss has never tied for first in the west. MSU has, Ole Miss, never.




2003

LSU and Ole Miss finished with 7-1 records in the SEC (tied for 1'st in the West). LSU went to Atlanta based on their 17-14 win over the Rebels in Oxford.


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Re: Burbank [Re: jbc] #2463835
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I might be wrong but I think that the head to head tie-breaker only comes into play in determining who goes to the conference championship game. I think they are listed as division co-champions based on strictly total wins and losses, as far as the SEC goes.

Re: Burbank [Re: abolt300] #2463888
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Originally Posted by abolt300
I might be wrong but I think that the head to head tie-breaker only comes into play in determining who goes to the conference championship game. I think they are listed as division co-champions based on strictly total wins and losses, as far as the SEC goes.



Correct


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Re: Burbank [Re: doekiller] #2463966
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Originally Posted by doekiller
Originally Posted by jmudler
Originally Posted by doekiller



Is that a list of Championship game appearances? If so, it is wrong. Mississippi has never been there. The other totals are wrong too.


divisional - its the list BC posted above



Gotcha, so it includes ties that were now with a tie breaker. IT still isn't correct. Ole Miss has never tied for first in the west. MSU has, Ole Miss, never.


I was lazy and deleted "State" at the end of Mississippi when I did the test to columns in Excel. Figured we all know Ole Miss is well.....Ole Miss wink

Last edited by jmudler; 04/19/18 03:49 PM.

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Re: Burbank [Re: jmudler] #2464651
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Originally Posted by jmudler
Originally Posted by doekiller
Originally Posted by jmudler
Originally Posted by doekiller



Is that a list of Championship game appearances? If so, it is wrong. Mississippi has never been there. The other totals are wrong too.


divisional - its the list BC posted above



Gotcha, so it includes ties that were now with a tie breaker. IT still isn't correct. Ole Miss has never tied for first in the west. MSU has, Ole Miss, never.


I was lazy and deleted "State" at the end of Mississippi when I did the test to columns in Excel. Figured we all know Ole Miss is well.....Ole Miss wink



They did share it in 03. That's the year Eli Manning beat the brakes off of Alabama. I arrowed an 8 point that afternoon after the game ended and never found it. Hell of an afternoon. rolleyes


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