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Re: Another reason not to get a DUI [Re: jawbone] #2525177
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So what is the cost and process for getting on the list for putting these units on cars. Looks like it could be a very lucrative business.

Re: Another reason not to get a DUI [Re: jawbone] #2525300
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an average, non-ignition lock, dui is around $10k. I can’t see it being any cheaper for the privilege of driving during punishment. Wonder how long it will be before there’s a similar device for maryjane dui? Offer up a swab to crank and go??


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Re: Another reason not to get a DUI [Re: jawbone] #2525323
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I will not agree with anything changing to DUI, domestic violence, or harassment laws ( just to name a few) until the B'S gets removed from these laws. EXAMPLE: Guy drives to a bar. Has a little to much to drink and knows it. Calls his friend to come drive him home. Tells him he will be sitting in his car waiting on him. Has his keys in his pocket. Cop pulls up and he gets a DUI for sitting in his car, drunk, with the keys in his pocket, waiting on a ride. Do y'all really think this guy needs to be required to have a machine installed in his vehicle because he got a DUI??

Re: Another reason not to get a DUI [Re: centralala] #2525327
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Originally Posted by centralala
I will not agree with anything changing to DUI, domestic violence, or harassment laws ( just to name a few) until the B'S gets removed from these laws. EXAMPLE: Guy drives to a bar. Has a little to much to drink and knows it. Calls his friend to come drive him home. Tells him he will be sitting in his car waiting on him. Has his keys in his pocket. Cop pulls up and he gets a DUI for sitting in his car, drunk, with the keys in his pocket, waiting on a ride. Do y'all really think this guy needs to be required to have a machine installed in his vehicle because he got a DUI??


Car is not cranked. I thought that was the test.

Re: Another reason not to get a DUI [Re: Remington270] #2525328
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Originally Posted by Remington270
Originally Posted by centralala
I will not agree with anything changing to DUI, domestic violence, or harassment laws ( just to name a few) until the B'S gets removed from these laws. EXAMPLE: Guy drives to a bar. Has a little to much to drink and knows it. Calls his friend to come drive him home. Tells him he will be sitting in his car waiting on him. Has his keys in his pocket. Cop pulls up and he gets a DUI for sitting in his car, drunk, with the keys in his pocket, waiting on a ride. Do y'all really think this guy needs to be required to have a machine installed in his vehicle because he got a DUI??


Car is not cranked. I thought that was the test.



Car doesn't have to be cranked. Keys only have to be in your possesion.

Re: Another reason not to get a DUI [Re: centralala] #2525334
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Originally Posted by centralala
Originally Posted by Remington270
Originally Posted by centralala
I will not agree with anything changing to DUI, domestic violence, or harassment laws ( just to name a few) until the B'S gets removed from these laws. EXAMPLE: Guy drives to a bar. Has a little to much to drink and knows it. Calls his friend to come drive him home. Tells him he will be sitting in his car waiting on him. Has his keys in his pocket. Cop pulls up and he gets a DUI for sitting in his car, drunk, with the keys in his pocket, waiting on a ride. Do y'all really think this guy needs to be required to have a machine installed in his vehicle because he got a DUI??


Car is not cranked. I thought that was the test.



Car doesn't have to be cranked. Keys only have to be in your possesion.


That is absolutely morally wrong.
There is enforcing the law and the general well being/safety of the populace as an officer then there is knowingly and purposefully dicking over someones life.

Re: Another reason not to get a DUI [Re: AU7MM08] #2525338
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Originally Posted by AU7MM08
Originally Posted by centralala
Originally Posted by Remington270
Originally Posted by centralala
I will not agree with anything changing to DUI, domestic violence, or harassment laws ( just to name a few) until the B'S gets removed from these laws. EXAMPLE: Guy drives to a bar. Has a little to much to drink and knows it. Calls his friend to come drive him home. Tells him he will be sitting in his car waiting on him. Has his keys in his pocket. Cop pulls up and he gets a DUI for sitting in his car, drunk, with the keys in his pocket, waiting on a ride. Do y'all really think this guy needs to be required to have a machine installed in his vehicle because he got a DUI??


Car is not cranked. I thought that was the test.



Car doesn't have to be cranked. Keys only have to be in your possesion.


That is absolutely morally wrong.
There is enforcing the law and the general well being/safety of the populace as an officer then there is knowingly and purposefully dicking over someones life.

That's because it ain't about the drunk, it's all about the money.


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Re: Another reason not to get a DUI [Re: jawbone] #2525347
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Problem with people like y'all is you really have no reason to know a lot of the B'S laws we have. You go about your lives and never have these things come up. Domestic Violence is the hot law going now. To me, you need to have a person giving the violence and a person receiving that violence. Not so. If I'm arguing with my wife and I kick the lawnmower, that is Domestic Violence by Alabama's law. I gave the violence and the lawnmower received the violence. WTF??? For harassment all you have to do is say you felt threatened and you can sign a warrant on someone. I can say that about anyone, anywhere, anytime. How you going to prove I didnt?

Re: Another reason not to get a DUI [Re: jawbone] #2525352
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Let me say what really po's me is the DUI and Domestic Violence started out as good laws. Needed laws. I was all for them. But the B'S got added to them really taking the negative perception i had when I use to see them listed. Those laws should have been left alone and had real teeth when convicted and sent those B'S parts to there own meaningless law. Now I see Domestic Violence, my thought is "Oh well" because it doesn't list the seriousness of what happened. Truth be known, by Alabama law, probably most of us have committed DV.

Re: Another reason not to get a DUI [Re: centralala] #2525392
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Originally Posted by centralala
Originally Posted by Remington270
Originally Posted by centralala
I will not agree with anything changing to DUI, domestic violence, or harassment laws ( just to name a few) until the B'S gets removed from these laws. EXAMPLE: Guy drives to a bar. Has a little to much to drink and knows it. Calls his friend to come drive him home. Tells him he will be sitting in his car waiting on him. Has his keys in his pocket. Cop pulls up and he gets a DUI for sitting in his car, drunk, with the keys in his pocket, waiting on a ride. Do y'all really think this guy needs to be required to have a machine installed in his vehicle because he got a DUI??


Car is not cranked. I thought that was the test.



Car doesn't have to be cranked. Keys only have to be in your possesion.

This is true under the letter of the law. You just have to be in control of the vehicle. However, I have rarely seen this charges unless the person has driven the car and is on the side of the road. I have seen several people questioned and a few charged with public intox (bulldoodoo, but better than a DUI). The few I have represented charges for a vehicle not driving, with the exception of one, either had their case dismissed or were found not guilty. That guy admitted to the officer he was drunk and drove his truck into a ditch and got stuck.

Re: Another reason not to get a DUI [Re: doekiller] #2525585
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Originally Posted by doekiller
Originally Posted by centralala
Originally Posted by Remington270
Originally Posted by centralala
I will not agree with anything changing to DUI, domestic violence, or harassment laws ( just to name a few) until the B'S gets removed from these laws. EXAMPLE: Guy drives to a bar. Has a little to much to drink and knows it. Calls his friend to come drive him home. Tells him he will be sitting in his car waiting on him. Has his keys in his pocket. Cop pulls up and he gets a DUI for sitting in his car, drunk, with the keys in his pocket, waiting on a ride. Do y'all really think this guy needs to be required to have a machine installed in his vehicle because he got a DUI??


Car is not cranked. I thought that was the test.



Car doesn't have to be cranked. Keys only have to be in your possesion.

This is true under the letter of the law. You just have to be in control of the vehicle. However, I have rarely seen this charges unless the person has driven the car and is on the side of the road. I have seen several people questioned and a few charged with public intox (bulldoodoo, but better than a DUI). The few I have represented charges for a vehicle not driving, with the exception of one, either had their case dismissed or were found not guilty. That guy admitted to the officer he was drunk and drove his truck into a ditch and got stuck.

I can't recall making an arrest like that myself but I know officers on my shift have when someone was passed out and parked in the middle of the road, or one officer arrested someone who parked the car and passed out in the McDonald's drive thru. Usually in that situation the officer would take the easiest solution to the problem and charge them with a simple Public Intox charge. 8 hours in jail and a fine. No DL issues, and easier to meet the burden of proof.


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Re: Another reason not to get a DUI [Re: jawbone] #2525586
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The first DUI should be punished with death.

Whatever calamity in life caused me to arrive at this opinion...I’ve suffered first hand.

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Re: Another reason not to get a DUI [Re: JohnnyLoco] #2525591
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Originally Posted by JohnnyLoco
The first DUI should be punished with death.

Whatever calamity in life caused me to arrive at this opinion...I’ve suffered first hand.

You’ve never made a single poor choice in life?

Re: Another reason not to get a DUI [Re: jawbone] #2525625
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a guy from Argentina, originally, told me that on their first dui offense their car gets returned to them compacted into a square chunk of metal...that'll get your attention!


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Re: Another reason not to get a DUI [Re: doekiller] #2525631
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Originally Posted by doekiller
Originally Posted by centralala
Originally Posted by Remington270
Originally Posted by centralala
I will not agree with anything changing to DUI, domestic violence, or harassment laws ( just to name a few) until the B'S gets removed from these laws. EXAMPLE: Guy drives to a bar. Has a little to much to drink and knows it. Calls his friend to come drive him home. Tells him he will be sitting in his car waiting on him. Has his keys in his pocket. Cop pulls up and he gets a DUI for sitting in his car, drunk, with the keys in his pocket, waiting on a ride. Do y'all really think this guy needs to be required to have a machine installed in his vehicle because he got a DUI??


Car is not cranked. I thought that was the test.



Car doesn't have to be cranked. Keys only have to be in your possesion.

This is true under the letter of the law. You just have to be in control of the vehicle. However, I have rarely seen this charges unless the person has driven the car and is on the side of the road. I have seen several people questioned and a few charged with public intox (bulldoodoo, but better than a DUI). The few I have represented charges for a vehicle not driving, with the exception of one, either had their case dismissed or were found not guilty. That guy admitted to the officer he was drunk and drove his truck into a ditch and got stuck.


I know a woman who was charged with dui while not driving a vehicle. She had a girls night and drank more wine than she intended. Decided to sleep in the car and sober up. Car was parked in a parking spot at the bar and grill they had drinks at. Climbed in to the back seat and went to sleep. Hour later, an officer knocks on the window. She blows a .12 on the breathilizer and gets a dui.

Re: Another reason not to get a DUI [Re: jawbone] #2525635
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Originally Posted by jawbone
Alabama will now require you to install a breath testing instrument that will only allow your vehicle to start after you blow into it with no alcohol detected after a conviction. A buddy had to have one put in after a FL DUI and they are expensive and it is on your dime if you want to drive.


We've had them in FL for years. Ignition interlock device. Have to blow before vehicle will start. I've only seen one during my time as a trooper. If you have one of those you're an alcoholic period who shouldn't have a license. Professional drunks who forget driving is a privilege not a right.


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Re: Another reason not to get a DUI [Re: SouthBamaSlayer] #2525879
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Originally Posted by SouthBamaSlayer
Originally Posted by JohnnyLoco
The first DUI should be punished with death.

Whatever calamity in life caused me to arrive at this opinion...I’ve suffered first hand.

You’ve never made a single poor choice in life?


Absolutely Hoss, and I shoulda been executed for it each time. Your word “choice” is key in this discussion. If One “chose” to walk around in mall drunk, pointing a loaded Glock at everybody, should he not be neutralized?

First, I’m reigning Alabama champion for drinking, driving, and shooting road signs left handed over my truck cab

Second, I used to drive 140mph to the Gulf drinking moonshine in a pineapple slurpee listening to a stretched out Ted Nugent 8-track

No Quarter, No Mercy did I deserve, lucky I didn’t kill someone.

I’ve lost family, friends, and my troops, to such foolishness. I feel the same about texting. I had a young female cuz that was texting and killed a whole gosh danged military family over there by Ft Rucker a few years back. My heart was with the poor GI family. I wouldn’t kick a mule in the ass with civilians.

Hang em High!

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Re: Another reason not to get a DUI [Re: Out back] #2527118
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Originally Posted by Ben2
Originally Posted by Out back
And yet the most dangerous drivers (millennials with cell phones) are allowed to cause thousands of crashes everyday, with no consequences whatsoever.



Look for a hands free law soon. Georgia just passed a law requiring your hands to be free from all electronic devices or get fines. You are allowed 1 touch of the phone to answer a call if the device is mounted in the car.

Yet another unenforceable law.
The only way to stop it is to prosecute anyone who causes a wreck while using a phone.
Using the hands ain't the problem it's the mental distraction.



Yeah, I don’t see how they are going to enforce this one. With my job, I drive a LOT. Many times, I take my wallet out of my pocket and lay it with my phone on the console or dash. How is an officer going to prove a person that does something similar, wasn’t holding a wallet, or a pack of cigarettes, or something similar in size?


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Re: Another reason not to get a DUI [Re: jawbone] #2527282
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I always think of this when I hear of these things.




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Re: Another reason not to get a DUI [Re: jawbone] #2528413
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I was told by a LEO that in Alabama you can be charged with DUI for riding a horse while over the legal BAC limit. How many of y'all have ever been riding a Off road vehicle on private property drinking a beer? If you pull onto a public right of way, DUI. In the eyes of the law, both of these offenses would be the same as the guy who is sloppy drunk swerving all over the road.

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