yes, I just sowed them into standing clover, you can look back in the thread to see what they looked like. these were red and white clover fields that have crimson clover and grains in them that died out in may

I really want to learn how to do this, but I hate to read 69 pages. Is there a cliff notes version of this thread?

Throw cereal rye, mow, wait for rain.

This is one of the main videos that originally opened my eyes up to a different way. It’s not the “throw and mow method” that you need to understand…..It’s the principles. Anyone who is interested, take a moment and watch the video below. Make sure to really take note around the 9:00 minute mark where it starts talking about their early years and think about how that relates to what we’re doing as food plotters for wildlife.

“As to the methods, there may be a million and then some…..but principles are few. The man who grasps principles can successfully select his own method.”
- Ralph Waldo Emerson

Here's my throw and mow proso Millett

Dude!.....that looks awesome… ….Are you gonna follow it up this fall with some T&M cereal gains/clover???

Is that all proso or does it have some brown top in it? My brown top looks good but very little proso came up. I think I got a bad bag of seed.

That is all white millet or proso as most call it. I will burn it off ahead of dove season CNC. Shoot it a few times then top sow wheat and rye for fall plots on top. Then burn that down next spring and plant corn into it no till planter wise. Then start back the process again

It almost looks like you know what you're doing

Beginners luck. Trust me. I didn't show the failed other fields.

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When you say burn it down, do you literally burn it or spray with glyphosate? If you are going to actually burn it, do you have any tricks? I have tried burning our dove field before but had very little success. I'm guessing the humidity was too high. The field was completely dead, we bush hogged it and used a dripper to light it. It would burn small patches (10-20 ft in diameter) but wouldn't keep burning. Finally just gave up.

Do tell.....I think we learn more from the failures than the successes. You have some failed fields???

Yea I was in a hurry on planting day and let my 9 yr old go with me. He got hungry and real pissy. We cut the stubble on the field in pic and it was just fine as you can see. On other fields we didn't cut the stubble just broadcast and headed to town. Had total failures there. I reseeded a few weeks ago and burned down with gramoxone in hot weather and then cut that stubble low over the seed once it was brown and crispy. Got a perfect stand on those fields now. So I got feed in 2 different stages which will work to my adavantage later.

Great video, CNC!

At some point along this path many folks will have an “Ah ha!!!” moment when suddenly it feels like a light bulb comes on and you just get it. Things start making a lot more sense after that. As one plotter said on another forum a few days ago….”I no longer look at my food plots the same way now.”……That’s exactly the same way I feel about it. I think that video helped lead me to my “Ah ha!” moment. There’s a lot of good videos out there on soil health if you google it. If you have time I would recommend watching those in your spare time. They will really help further your understanding of soil.

That video was very cool. I have a hard time believing you can grow great corn on a consistent basis with no added nitrogen. But we haven't always had chemical fertilizers...

No way you can make 250-300 bpa corn without added N. I didn't watch the video just responding blindly. We are using cover crops more and more now with NRCS programs. It helps. But you can't get enough N out of legumes to make high end corn yields in the south. We plant too early

Check out the video if you get a chance. Its only about 30 minutes long and fairly interesting for a video on soil. I’m not sure how many BPA of corn folks are getting with that kind of rotation. What I’m more concerned about though is how we can use the same concepts to reduce our inputs when food plotting

Definitely need that nitrogen to get corn right. This is not throw and mow but the field has been in beans 3 years now, and no nitrogen has been added. Not on purpose, I am just 350 miles away and life got in the way of fertilizing.Anyway, you can see its spindly and only making one small ear on most stalks. Thats OK with me since I am mainly looking for summer food.The corn is just a bonus that provides cover during hunting season and brings them to the field looking.