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New Stand Your Ground
#2565552
08/30/18 12:20 PM
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I like the way this sheriff handles things, he's a very outspoken guy against thugs. But, I can't get comfortable one way or the other on this particular case. Seems the driver has plenty of options other than shooting. But, stand your ground doesn't mean you have to chose those options. https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/30/us/stand-your-ground-polk-county-uber-driver/index.html
not sure what the best way to handle them is but they shouldnt be on tv and gettn married and raisin kids
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Re: New Stand Your Ground
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08/30/18 12:25 PM
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jmudler
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You get ran off the road, dude gets out yelling I have a gun and grabs his waistband. Justified
Isaiah 5:20 Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.
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Re: New Stand Your Ground
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#2565561
08/30/18 12:27 PM
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Moose24
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I am absolutely comfortable with it. I also pray that I am never in that situation. Once someone produces a gun against you, you have zero way to know if and when he will pull the trigger and you are dead. In my opinion, once someone presents that gun any action you take afterwards is self defense.
Just noticed that is a cell phone in his hand not his gun. Still comfortable with it.
Last edited by Moose24; 08/30/18 12:31 PM.
The Things You Remember in Life aren't Things at all.
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Re: New Stand Your Ground
[Re: jmudler]
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08/30/18 12:31 PM
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WmHunter
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You get ran off the road, dude gets out yelling I have a gun and grabs his waistband. Justified Totally justified. . And the driver of the ride share car only had a couple of seconds to defend himself.
"The Tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson
" Chuck Sykes is a dictator control freak like Vladimir Putin " WmHunter
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Re: New Stand Your Ground
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08/30/18 12:39 PM
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Fldoghunter
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IMO, This one is totally justified.
The Polk County Sheriff's name is Grady Judd. He is well liked by the law abiding citizens of Polk County, and don't take no crap. In another interview a couple years back, He advised " if you're comfortable with firearms, you should get a carry permit and carry one. And if you have to shoot someone, shoot 'em a lot!".
May the sound of hounds never die!
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Re: New Stand Your Ground
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08/30/18 12:41 PM
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bobwallace
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Wanna act like a bad ass with a gun, going to get killed by a good guy with one.
Yeah, well, I always heard there were three kinds of suns in Kansas: sunshine, sunflowers, and sons-of-bitches.
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Re: New Stand Your Ground
[Re: WmHunter]
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08/30/18 12:44 PM
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You get ran off the road, dude gets out yelling I have a gun and grabs his waistband. Justified Totally justified. . And the driver of the ride share car only had a couple of seconds to defend himself. This is the part I agree with. If he was black, it would be a complete media fiasco. I only watched it once, but I didn't notice the guy reach to his wasteband. If that's true, I agree it's justified. When I saw it on tv this morning I thought he was waiving a gun, not a cell phone.
not sure what the best way to handle them is but they shouldnt be on tv and gettn married and raisin kids
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Re: New Stand Your Ground
[Re: jmudler]
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08/30/18 12:48 PM
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You get ran off the road, dude gets out yelling I have a gun and grabs his waistband. Justified . This is part of my issue. We don't know if he got "run off the road". We heard what the sheriff said, but it doesn't look like he's off the road. No one is going to make me stop that easy and especially without physical contact to my vehicle. We just don't know.
not sure what the best way to handle them is but they shouldnt be on tv and gettn married and raisin kids
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Re: New Stand Your Ground
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08/30/18 01:00 PM
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perchjerker
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One more moron removed from the gene pool. He got what he deserved. if you yell you have a gun, you better have one. Did he have said gun?
Thomas Jefferson. The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
Life is too short to only hunt and fish on weekends!
If being a dumbass was fatal some of you would be on your death bed!
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Re: New Stand Your Ground
[Re: perchjerker]
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08/30/18 01:05 PM
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One more moron removed from the gene pool. He got what he deserved. if you yell you have a gun, you better have one. Did he have said gun? The news channel this morning said "he didn't have a gun" it wasn't clear if they meant just on his person or in the vehicle.
not sure what the best way to handle them is but they shouldnt be on tv and gettn married and raisin kids
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Re: New Stand Your Ground
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08/30/18 01:14 PM
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I may have slamed into reverse and tried to quickly get away first but untill it happens I truely think it's real hard to know what you'd do. It all happened so fast.
LUCK:::; When presistence, dedication, perspiration and preparation meet up with opportunity!!! - - - - - - - -A government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take everything you have. Thomas Jeferson - - - - - - - -
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Re: New Stand Your Ground
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08/30/18 01:26 PM
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jmudler
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You get ran off the road, dude gets out yelling I have a gun and grabs his waistband. Justified . This is part of my issue. We don't know if he got "run off the road". We heard what the sheriff said, but it doesn't look like he's off the road. No one is going to make me stop that easy and especially without physical contact to my vehicle. We just don't know. Once forces me to stop my car, my gun is out. One gets out of the car and moves toward me, you will be drawn upon. Yell I have a gun, my trigger finger is now on the trigger. Reach for your waist, the trigger will be depressed. Then I am saying I was in fear of my life calling 911 and PMing doekiller.
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Isaiah 5:20 Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.
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Re: New Stand Your Ground
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08/30/18 01:40 PM
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100% Justified and 100% what SYG is about.
If you’re a common sense person, you probably don’t feel you have a home in this world right now. If you’re a Christian, you know you were never meant to.
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Re: New Stand Your Ground
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08/30/18 03:02 PM
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jb20
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I may have slamed into reverse and tried to quickly get away first but untill it happens I truely think it's real hard to know what you'd do. It all happened so fast. Couple years ago a guy I know was stopped at stop sign guy pulled in middle got out with a shotgun aimed at his head and shot. he ducked down and redlined his dodge with cattle trailer that guy shot 2 more cars police ended up killing him. People r crazy!
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Ben Franklin
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Re: New Stand Your Ground
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08/30/18 03:09 PM
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Like the sheriff said...justifiable shooting all day long.
Well behaved women never make history.~ Out back Quit laughing...I think I broke something.
Fifteen is my limit on Schnitzen-Gruben, Baby...
I have OCD and ADD, so everything has to be perfect, but only for a minute.
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Re: New Stand Your Ground
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08/30/18 03:13 PM
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jawbone
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More importantly he was able to give a good explanation as to why he feared for his life with more than he said he had a gun.
Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
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Re: New Stand Your Ground
[Re: Fldoghunter]
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08/30/18 05:13 PM
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Kevinpmac
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IMO, This one is totally justified.
The Polk County Sheriff's name is Grady Judd. He is well liked by the law abiding citizens of Polk County, and don't take no crap. In another interview a couple years back, He advised " if you're comfortable with firearms, you should get a carry permit and carry one. And if you have to shoot someone, shoot 'em a lot!". T He's my Sheriff. We love the guy and he is loaded with common sense. The perfect lawman in my eyes.
May we all die in bed at 95, shot by a jealous spouse
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Re: New Stand Your Ground
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08/30/18 05:30 PM
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Several years ago I was leaving a Publix parking lot and accidently cut a guy off. It was summer time, had his windows down, guy is a long haired tattoed up with some ol gal in the truck with him. He is cussing and screaming calling me everything in the book. I eased forward and got behind an old lady wating to pull onto the hiighway. Guy gets right on my ass as I'm waiting to pull out then exits his truck and started walking towards my door still raising hell with many watching. I stick my head out the window and told him I was sorry and that I didn't see him. He keep yelling. The whole time I have a .40 in my hand. He finally said "FK it" ,then yells something about what he was fixing to do and goes back to his truck and grabs something out from under the seat. It was a pistol. Just as he was coming back around his door and traffic cleared, the old lady pulled out and I quickly followed. Glad it ended that way because someone was about to die and I hoped it wasn't me. Saw the guy just the other day and several times in between and he always stares.
LUCK:::; When presistence, dedication, perspiration and preparation meet up with opportunity!!! - - - - - - - -A government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take everything you have. Thomas Jeferson - - - - - - - -
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Re: New Stand Your Ground
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08/30/18 06:50 PM
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I don’t understand road rage. Rather someone cuts you off accidentally or intentionally. Just let it go.
But if someone stops and comes towards you and threatens you and your family then it’s on.
Proud Army and ALNG veteran God Bless America!
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Re: New Stand Your Ground
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08/30/18 07:31 PM
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I love Sheriff Judd, just google him. But, my gut feeling says this doesn’t end well. I don’t know why, and I hope I’m wrong, but it just looks fishy. Driver just graduated from the Police Academy, it’s all on camera and you don’t see it all. You don’t see any video from what happened before, the shooter never really says anything, just weird. If he was chasing his girlfriend, it seems their should have been video from earlier. I mean how many times have you been just minding your own business, riding down the road and someone pulls in front of you like this? Just not your normal redneck road rage
not sure what the best way to handle them is but they shouldnt be on tv and gettn married and raisin kids
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Re: New Stand Your Ground
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08/30/18 08:34 PM
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I love SYG. If I am legally allowed to be there (anywhere), I am NOT retreating. Bang flop.
Audentis Fortuna Iuvat
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Re: New Stand Your Ground
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08/30/18 09:52 PM
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I love SYG. If I am legally allowed to be there (anywhere), I am NOT retreating. Bang flop. I hear you tough guy. You are a badass mother.
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[Re: doekiller]
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08/31/18 06:10 AM
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I love SYG. If I am legally allowed to be there (anywhere), I am NOT retreating. Bang flop. I hear you tough guy. You are a badass mother. There's a lot of this on this site. I'm doing everything in my power to get out of a situation like that without pulling the trigger. I have a lot better things to do for the next three years than go to lawyers offices, court rooms and police stations. Not to mention the nightmares. And I've been in exactly that situation before minus the guy screaming "do you want me to shoot you". But he did threaten my life. Once he realized I was armed the situation was over. I still see the guy every now and then, I don't think he recognizes me, but I wonder if he says his prayers and thanks the Lord everyday he isn't dead.
not sure what the best way to handle them is but they shouldnt be on tv and gettn married and raisin kids
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Re: New Stand Your Ground
[Re: doekiller]
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08/31/18 07:28 AM
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I love SYG. If I am legally allowed to be there (anywhere), I am NOT retreating. Bang flop. I hear you tough guy. You are a badass mother. Of course he is. Look at his Aldeer handle.
Yeah, well, I always heard there were three kinds of suns in Kansas: sunshine, sunflowers, and sons-of-bitches.
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08/31/18 08:22 AM
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Not to mention the nightmares.
Believe it or not, that's the worst part...even regardless of how justified it was.
Well behaved women never make history.~ Out back Quit laughing...I think I broke something.
Fifteen is my limit on Schnitzen-Gruben, Baby...
I have OCD and ADD, so everything has to be perfect, but only for a minute.
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08/31/18 08:32 AM
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Moral of the story..... Never bring a cell phone to a gun fight......
Lone Watie: I'm glad you stopped me when you did. I might have killed her
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08/31/18 10:28 AM
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Hope the rider tipped him well...
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." - Thomas Jefferson
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Re: New Stand Your Ground
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08/31/18 03:45 PM
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Did the article say what type of gun and ammunition? Seemed effective. .40, only one shot fired.
not sure what the best way to handle them is but they shouldnt be on tv and gettn married and raisin kids
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08/31/18 08:02 PM
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Did the article say what type of gun and ammunition? Seemed effective. 1911. It jammed after the first shot.
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09/01/18 12:02 AM
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Did the article say what type of gun and ammunition? Seemed effective. Had to be power max bonded, nothing else! 😁
If I agreed with you, we'd both be wrong.
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09/01/18 06:11 AM
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my dad pulled his pistol 6-8 times on people as a last resort and in one unfortunate situation after no less than 30 seconds of verbal warnings and a warning shot, shot a guy. My dad would fight a brick wall but in this situation he said repeatedly that the thought to kill him never occurred. Shot him mid thigh. Dude hit the ground and crawled back the way he came from. As the cops turned on the street 300 yards away, he unloaded his pistol, had the action back with his Co permit and license on the hood and standing there with his hands up. Every cop that responded to the call shook his hand and said what a good job he did (which created the neighborhood Wyatt Earp....). He has told me since I was big enough to use a pistol to shoot till it clicks. Still can’t believe he didn’t kill the guy
Give me bout 15 more minutes, I was dreamin about beavers.......... Si Robertson
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