Something else to notice about that first pic…….See that brown grass on the bottom right of the pic?? That’s what things are starting to look like underneath. Everything is maturing now and going to seed…..it’s the beginning of the end for the summer vegetation. If you’ll wait until early Oct to plant then all of that stuff will be ready to terminate without spraying.

I did this last year and everything did great, however I did have some of the weeds start growing again after I mowed them because I didn't spray. think it was mostly some johnson grass or crab grass that continued growing.

Yep….I usually get a minor amount of regrowth from Bermuda grass but it’s not enough to matter. By the time October gets here we’re usually only a few weeks away from first frost so any regrowth gets knocked out pretty quickly. If you’re someone that’s OCD about it and just want to see a really clean plot then go ahead and spray.

I’m gonna do some spraying ahead of time this year at the new place on an area that’s old pasture and nearly pure bahiagrass…..I’m thinking I’m gonna have to help break its stranglehold on everything to get any summer broadleaf growth. I’m kinda wondering how its gonna effect my cereal grains this fall. It’s a different situation than any I’ve planted into using T&M. I think the clover will do just fine. I may come back in the spring with Cleth and hit it again. It’s pretty much a monoculture right now.

Anyone else dealt with a situation like this?

Same situation here. I just got a new place, and it is partly old cow pastures that I've since bushogged and now sprayed. Hoping to do rye, brassicas and wheat.

Hey CNC did you watch Growingdeertv this week?

Uh oh.....nope I haven't seen it yet....gonna have to check it out now though.

Well, I’ll be dang….just like I posted about a while back. They will always find a reason why you need to buy their products…..I do find it interesting though that the question he gets a lot of and wanted to address was “Can I just mow instead?”…..Hmmm, I wonder why he gets that question a lot ? It’s all good though…..At least he’s promoting soil health.

Well Im going to walk the plank and try some full on throw n mow.

Going to plant 5 fields and all will be split Throw n Mow and traditional; bushhog then disked prepared seed bed.

The fields have been fallow for 5 years and are a mixture full on fields of grasses, bush's, and viney growth and / or cleatcut pines rows that was bad arse coastal.bermuda for decades and surprisingly bermuda has dominated volunteer pine regrowth.

Looking forward to some input from all of you as this is my goal for the next 45 days.

Still my favorite hunting show and illl still watch it every week but I couldn’t help but laugh when he said that

I wouldn’t do a one year side by side comparison and then try to draw conclusions from it. If the field hasn’t been tilled in years then it’s likely got a good reserve of OM built up. When you till it this time, it’s gonna cause a rapid burn of OM and release nutrients in the process. Your tilled plot will likely thrive this year as a result.

If you want to do a true side by side comparison then pull a soil sample from both sides right now and have them tested for your basic nutrients plus organic matter %.....Then do that each year for the next 5 years and compare the two tests each year…..Compare what happens to the OM%.....Compare how well they hold P&K in 5 years …..Compare how well they hold onto your lime when you add it……..Compare plant growth in 5 years…..That is how you will see a much truer picture.

As far as this year goes….it sounds like you have a good set up for a T&M planting. Being your first time, you may be better off to go ahead and spray a couple weeks ahead of planting. You’ll probably like the cleaner look. After you start getting a good kill just broadcast your seed into vegetation and mow it. You’re likely gonna want to mow over it twice to process the hay and spread it evenly over the field. Don’t be in a hurry and leave big clumps and wind rows.

Yeah, I’ve always liked his shows too……it’s just pretty disingenuous though when you twist the truth around like that in order to sell product. You’re basically telling all your viewers…..”Oh no, you can’t do it that way!”……when you know good and well that they can…..they just wouldn’t be using your product if they did. The viewers are not really getting the whole truth.

CNC, thanks for the imput.

I will start to learn the soil science. This year is more of getting the farm back to useable fields.. I'm not worried about comparing conventional vrs T n M but rather am trying to minimize cost but get as much field area as possible. The T-N-M will mostly be utilized in areas of clear cut pine rows and hardwood clearcut. I plan to run a BRUSH MOWER through alot of the area as its just to dang dangerous driving a tractor due to ruts, logs and stumps. I would go crazy trying to disk between 3 acres or more of pine rows. Going down tomorrow to look at each field to see what can be done. Land is in Bullock County and natural habitat looks like Sedgefield. Were located next to Masterrack and soils are Sandy loam.

Yep, that’s the same kind of sandy soil I’m dealing with. The less you disk sand the better off you’ll be.

We tracked a monster 8 point that Otis bayed up for what is probably your neighbors or really close to you. I missed it with my pistol….he broke bay and we never saw him again. One of the biggest framed racks I’ve seen in the woods with my own eyes. A legitimate 150+ inch 8 point…..That’s when I threw the pistol away and broke out my 30-30 to track with. I started tearing ‘em up on bay after that. Man would I love to have a do over on that one though.

You must be very near to my hunting club. Our land borders master rack near the lodge.

I'm purchasing a no till drill very soon. Hopefully in time for plots this fall.

If you you take the first right past Bethel church (52) heading towards masterrack on 29 pretty much us or family of my buddy. My 42 year hunting there..

I get nervous as heck bushogging the fields as I have no idea where the pine rows are or if there is a rut or log or something. I will say I am using the most bad-arse little bushhog on earth. It turns the vegetation to instant mulch the dad gum pine straw disappears its crazy.



https://imgur.com/a/mRh0Qz6

Nice!......

Good looking field......Bout to get ready to start doing some bushhogging myself. I keep hoping that first nice cold front will roll through soon.

Ironweed…….a very vibrant colored wildflower…..