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Someone please explain to me...credit score
#2574775
09/09/18 09:01 AM
09/09/18 09:01 AM
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Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 68,840 Luverne, AL
Skinny
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GUVNER
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Why does your credit score drop after you pay off all outstanding debt?
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Re: Someone please explain to me...credit score
[Re: Skinny]
#2574783
09/09/18 09:06 AM
09/09/18 09:06 AM
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Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 14,056 AL
hunterbuck
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Booner
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If it's a revolving credit item (credit card) you paid off, it doesn't hurt your credit.
If it's an installment credit item (house, car, etc) it hurts your credit because one of the metrics used to measure credit score is "age" of open accounts. The lower the age of your open accounts, the more negatively it affects your credit.
My score dropped about 15 points when I paid off my house, because I no longer had a 10+ year account on my credit, which lowered the average age of open accounts.
Ridiculous, but why it happens.
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Have you tried Google?
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Re: Someone please explain to me...credit score
[Re: Skinny]
#2574792
09/09/18 09:16 AM
09/09/18 09:16 AM
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Joined: Apr 2015
Posts: 5,588 Lee County, Alabama
dBmV
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12 point
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In the last year I have paid off my house, tractor and UTV. My credit score was in the 800s and is now in the 770s. You would think it would go up because I've shown myself to be a good risk and now have extra money for monthly payments. Jokes on them though. I'm saving all that money and don't plan on borrowing ever again. I'm old enough that the stuff I have now should last me until I die or get so old I don't need it any more.
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Re: Someone please explain to me...credit score
[Re: Skinny]
#2574793
09/09/18 09:17 AM
09/09/18 09:17 AM
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Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 19,246 Chelsea, AL
straycat
Old Mossy Horns
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Old Mossy Horns
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Credit card math is weird the way they figure risk. Normally it's a utilization rate issue on a credit card even if it's paid in full each month. Otherwise, could be a series of little things that make scores change. Credit score is important (good - great credit scores is a 150 point range), but not as much as debt to income ratio.
Last edited by straycat; 09/09/18 09:21 AM.
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Re: Someone please explain to me...credit score
[Re: Skinny]
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09/09/18 09:23 AM
09/09/18 09:23 AM
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Skinny
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Mine was over 800 but I paid off a car and a small CC and it dropped about 40 points to 780. Doesn't make any sense. It should have gone up cause I paid my bills, but it went down.
"Never Trust Government" -- Smart people. "You must have free speech in order to have democracy. That's why it is the First Amendment. And the Second Amendment is there to ensure that we have the First Amendment." -- Elon Musk 10-6-2024 "You can be broke but you cant be poor." -- Ruthie-May Webster
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Re: Someone please explain to me...credit score
[Re: straycat]
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09/09/18 09:25 AM
09/09/18 09:25 AM
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Posts: 9,375 Jasper, AL
joshm28
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Credit card math is weird the way they figure risk. Normally it's a utilization rate issue on a credit card even if it's paid in full each month. Otherwise, could be a series of little things that make scores change. Credit score is important (good - great credit scores is a 150 point range), but not as much as debt to income ratio. Agreed but I don’t think the big 3 utilize debt to income while figuring the score. Otherwise paying debt off would have a positive effect
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Re: Someone please explain to me...credit score
[Re: Skinny]
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09/09/18 09:28 AM
09/09/18 09:28 AM
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straycat
Old Mossy Horns
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Old Mossy Horns
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Right. I meant that in the real world, buying stuff on credit or getting loans for big items looks at that ratio as a significant factor...I'd say more than credit score (as long as it's in the good to great range).
"The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever." Isaiah 40:8
"Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt.� Samuel Adams
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Re: Someone please explain to me...credit score
[Re: Skinny]
#2574809
09/09/18 09:45 AM
09/09/18 09:45 AM
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Posts: 8,584 Grays Creek, NC
bigcountry692001
14 point
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14 point
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This is a million dolla question. Mine has been 800 +/- 10 points for the last ten years and I honestly have no idea what drives it. I’ve seen it fluctuate at times I’ve never bought or had any credit checks ran.
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Re: Someone please explain to me...credit score
[Re: Skinny]
#2574818
09/09/18 10:06 AM
09/09/18 10:06 AM
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Posts: 4,597 Elmore county
GKelly
10 point
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10 point
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because they didnt get to earn the interest off of the debt for as long as agreed usually. i paid my truck off 2 years early and my score went from 760 to 725 doesnt take but a few months to rebound though.id rather take the hit and save some money than keep throwing away money on interest especially if i dont plan on making a large purchase in the next year.
Last edited by GKelly; 09/09/18 10:09 AM.
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Re: Someone please explain to me...credit score
[Re: bigcountry692001]
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09/09/18 10:09 AM
09/09/18 10:09 AM
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Posts: 30,910 Clanton, AL
Out back
Grumpy Old Man
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Grumpy Old Man
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This is a million dolla question. Mine has been 800 +/- 10 points for the last ten years and I honestly have no idea what drives it. I’ve seen it fluctuate at times I’ve never bought or had any credit checks ran. If you have insurance, a mortgage, or gotten any unsolicited credit card offers, somebody is running your credit.
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Re: Someone please explain to me...credit score
[Re: Skinny]
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09/09/18 10:11 AM
09/09/18 10:11 AM
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Posts: 44,211 North Alabama
Wiley Coyote
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
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North Alabama
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I paid my little farm off a few weeks ago (5 years early) and my score dropped to 690. Pissed me off but I have very little to zero need for credit now anyway.
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Re: Someone please explain to me...credit score
[Re: hunterbuck]
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09/09/18 10:23 AM
09/09/18 10:23 AM
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Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 25,366 Guntersville, AL
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I am Cornholio
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If it's a revolving credit item (credit card) you paid off, it doesn't hurt your credit.. Sorta true. If you have credit cards with a zero balance, that's just as bad as having one with over 30% utilization. The magic number is utilizing about 5-9% of your credit cards to get the best possible impact on your credit. So if Skinny paid his cards off to a zero balance, it will make his credit score drop if his balance was zero at the time they reported to the CA.
If you’re a common sense person, you probably don’t feel you have a home in this world right now. If you’re a Christian, you know you were never meant to.
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Re: Someone please explain to me...credit score
[Re: Howa1500]
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09/09/18 10:24 AM
09/09/18 10:24 AM
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Posts: 25,366 Guntersville, AL
IDOT
I am Cornholio
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I am Cornholio
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If you're credit score is above 750ish it doesn't matter much past that. And this, once you get to about 720ish +, you're good to go anyways.
If you’re a common sense person, you probably don’t feel you have a home in this world right now. If you’re a Christian, you know you were never meant to.
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Re: Someone please explain to me...credit score
[Re: Lonster]
#2574838
09/09/18 10:43 AM
09/09/18 10:43 AM
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Freak of Nature
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I don’t even care what my credit score is anymore. Some folks think that you measure others’ credibility by their credit score! Bullchit!
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