Pretty sure he got hit in the head with a brick too, scrambled his brain for life.

Which part do you not agree with? Must be the first. I believe Scout's second statement " The eight miserable ............". has merit .

And another black on black murder in Bessemer yesterday, crickets

They are winning now. The eight years under Obama did empower and now they have a blue print.

You're absolutely right. And it's totally critical to determine if the officer identified himself.
If he did, the shooting might be a terrible accident. If he did not, then he murdered a good Samaritan.

I may be wrong, but I don't think the officer is required to identify himself in this situation. It was a decision which had to be made in a split second which if the officer hesitated could have cost more lives.

You and I may want the officer to identify himself before shooting, but I think the law will be on his side IF he did not in this case.

I don’t live in Hoover but live close enough. I have always been a CCW, but due to the current situation now carry two pistols. I carry a S&W .40 with an extra mag, as well as a Sig .380 in my pocket. Some folks will laugh at me and say I’m overreacting but I say I won’t be a victim.

The rioters, in Hoover, don't represent all of their race. These people rioting, causing trouble and calling for war, are the lowest of the low. The majority of the people in this country just want to go to work and provide for themselves and their families. The other percentage, well. there they are in Hoover stirring up schit and hoping to elicit a response that they can point to and make an example of.

Carry yourself like you would at any other time, but defend yourself, your families, your neighbors and you city. Use good judgment with your actions, because you will most likely not receive good judgement from others.

I do agree that sooner or later they are going to confront an armed citizen and it will not end well.

some of ya'll are making assumptions you can't back up. Ya'll do know about assumptions, don't ya?????

I work in hoover, live in pelham. i can guarantee that if a situation arises where i need to protect family or friends from these thugs i will do so.

Shhh, let 'em talk. It's fun to watch.

The mystery policy officer could live in Pelham or Helena and all the focus turned this way. Heads up!!!

I agree with outback. I also find it interesting that the family and their legal team are not involved in these “protest”. The people behind this don’t care about the guy who died, they are using this as an excuse to push their agenda.

I work with and around a lot of black people and I can tell you, there is starting to be a push back from a part of the black community against the protest too.

They need to be much more vocal, more in touch with local news media and then stand firm when the other side calls them Uncle Toms or whatever other things since they're not supporting "the cause."

I'll say it again...Hoover officials have chosen the " give space and appeasement" approach so as not to cause a scene that will escalate the protests. They have been on numerous media outlets within the past few days saying everything has been peaceful and they want to keep it that way, even if it creates inconvenience. Give space to protesters...advice other cities have given Hoover based on their own experience with protesters and riots. So Hoover is following that. They did say no more blocking of roads would be tolerated.

Talk radio was lit up with angry Hoover residents and people who work in Hoover. There is a huge backlash boiling. If these agenda driven manipulative protesters take it further...It's going to boil over.

If they want to protest City Hall and the Police Department...go for it because that's public property. All the private business, road blocking and residential shucks...if taken up a notch...that will cause armed confrontation. Somebody might pull a Walker County style fix on them if they anger the right people.

I lived in Hoover for a long time...still work there and spend lots of time at all hours of the day and night. I always carry, but I've changed tactics and am more than prepared. The Bible tells us to try to live peacefully with others...do what we can if it's up to us. But...if stuff comes to me or my family/friends/others then that changes that command entirely.

Y'all be safe. Hopefully this will blow over soon. But groups like this are not rational...appeasement doesn't work...it actually can allow for it to grow...swift action will create a mess too though. So if a mess is coming regardless....let it come through not be a ?#$$Y (kitty cat).

Did I see correctly that when they 'protested' at Sam's, the law enforcement told Sam's management they would have to request action to move (or remove) people blocking the doors? And that the Sam's management declined?

If so then that's clearly the mentality of the companies today — allow this to happen, don't complain, don't get the police to do anything, let the paying patrons and shoppers be "inconvenienced" and why? To avoid the "negative publicity" and potential boycotts, marches and social media "outrage" about Sam's or Buffalo Wild Wings or whatever business stepping on these po' folks "peaceful" protests.


If a group of people stormed into Applebee's or Chili's yelling and marching and causing a scene about their belief of some social injustice, they'd be tossed out and possibly charged.

And yet ...

That is why Rose has taken her protesting experience to Hoover to help them. Her shtick doesn't pull much weight anymore in Selma's black community.

Interesting thread for me though having lived through the 1990 Selma School protests and seeing the same tactics used.

Exactly. In the social media surrounding this story, I've seen literally hundreds of black folks supporting the boycott and protests, but only one single black person speaking out against it. She happened to be a police officer's wife.

This is very true, I have a couple partners in different ventures that are black as well as a couple coworkers. They are fed up with all the race baiting and wolf talk.