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Re: What is wrong with our country [Re: deerman24] #2669878
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Read FurFlyin’s signature line..... that’s all that is needed to turn our country around.


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Re: What is wrong with our country [Re: deerman24] #2670030
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Read Revelations.....it’s going to happen. Take the time while your kids are in your home to teach them the truth about God, man, and Gods son Jesus. Jesus is the answer. Every answer to life’s questions have already been answered for us in the Bible. Just read it!!!

Men are responsible for all of this. We need Godly Men!


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Re: What is wrong with our country [Re: deerman24] #2670088
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is sad so many has to seek hope from a god . is there no hope with out him ?

why does a good man have to be godly or can you be a good man with out being godly ??

Re: What is wrong with our country [Re: Frankie] #2670431
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Originally Posted by Frankie
is sad so many has to seek hope from a god . is there no hope with out him ?

why does a good man have to be godly or can you be a good man with out being godly ??



Actually a good question, Frankie. Might sound like I'm setting you up, but I'm not.... define "hope"? (you and I likely agree)


We were on the edge of Eternia, when the power of Greyskull began to take hold.
Re: What is wrong with our country [Re: deerman24] #2670448
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to many people allowed to vote themselves more free handouts as long as politicians can buy votes with welfare programs we will keep declining. the founders never intended it to be that way back then you had to be a property owner or in other words you had to have something to bring to the table. now we have to many leaches voting themselves "free" stuff while the rest of us pay for it. it's like what the unions did with the auto industry in Detroit on a grander scale. beggars can't be choosers until election time I guess.

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Re: What is wrong with our country [Re: Frankie] #2670488
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Originally Posted by Frankie
is sad so many has to seek hope from a god . is there no hope with out him ?

why does a good man have to be godly or can you be a good man with out being godly ??



“And he said, "What comes out of a person is what defiles him. For from within, out of the heart of man, come evil thoughts, sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery, coveting, wickedness, deceit, sensuality, envy, slander, pride, foolishness. All these evil things come from within, and they defile a person."”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭7:20-23‬ ‭ESV‬‬
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Re: What is wrong with our country [Re: deerman24] #2670489
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“The natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned.”
‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭2:14‬ ‭ESV‬‬
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Re: What is wrong with our country [Re: deerman24] #2670505
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so saith the lord !!!!!! amen !!!

Re: What is wrong with our country [Re: deerman24] #2670507
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We have lazy scumbags on assistance and illegal aliens living better than some working Americans. That is wrong. Can't believe this is happening in America. Vote conservative.

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Re: What is wrong with our country [Re: Frankie] #2670865
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Originally Posted by Frankie
is sad so many has to seek hope from a god . is there no hope with out him ?

why does a good man have to be godly or can you be a good man with out being godly ??


What we see as good is just filthy rags in the eyes of God. His standard of "good" is much higher than ours.


"The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him."
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Re: What is wrong with our country [Re: deerman24] #2670874
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What would be sad is the guy in hell burning for eternity calling out to God for help but God does not hear him, that is a man with no hope. A man who is still breathing has hope.

Re: What is wrong with our country [Re: jwalker77] #2670886
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Originally Posted by jwalker77
What would be sad is the guy in hell burning for eternity calling out to God for help but God does not hear him, that is a man with no hope. A man who is still breathing has hope.



lol ,,, you might be right , commit any horrible crime and you get through the gates just by asking for forgiveness .

BUT, take a man that has never done no harm will burn in hell if he aint godly .

believe what you want i aint buying that bill of goods .

Re: What is wrong with our country [Re: Frankie] #2670895
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Originally Posted by Frankie


BUT, take a man that has never done no harm will burn in hell if he aint godly .

believe what you want i aint buying that bill of goods .

And that will be the single, most important decision you will have to make in your entire life. Choose wisely.


"The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him."
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Re: What is wrong with our country [Re: deerman24] #2670911
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Frankie, if you want to know the truth regarding this matter, inquire of the Lord what you should believe. I know my Lord would not deny any man the truth who is trully seeking truth. But as stated above, choose wisely what you believe. Im not suggesting you believe me, but you would have to agree you can believe the Lord, talk to him about it.

Re: What is wrong with our country [Re: deerman24] #2670922
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i'll call him first thing in the morning and see what we can work out on my soul .

Re: What is wrong with our country [Re: deerman24] #2670931
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Good deal, in the meantime ill be praying for you.

Re: What is wrong with our country [Re: deerman24] #2670973
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This aint nothing new fellows. Just a lot more media coverage now a days. Live your life to the fullest and be happy in what you do.


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Re: What is wrong with our country [Re: Frankie] #2671449
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Originally Posted by Frankie
Originally Posted by jwalker77
What would be sad is the guy in hell burning for eternity calling out to God for help but God does not hear him, that is a man with no hope. A man who is still breathing has hope.



lol ,,, you might be right , commit any horrible crime and you get through the gates just by asking for forgiveness .

BUT, take a man that has never done no harm will burn in hell if he aint godly .

believe what you want i aint buying that bill of goods .


That's the issue, that man doesn't exist. That's behavioral-modification-understanding at it's finest, it's the baseline/default mentality of humanity, it's all about my behavior. It's the single biggest obstacle to evangelizing the unbeliever too. By and large, most people think they are good. I behave good, I think nice thoughts, I help people, I don't commit crime, etc. I think the single biggest error of understanding BOTH with believers inside the church, and with unbelievers outside the church (usually about those inside the church) is that one's behavior has anything whatsoever to do with Christianity. In fact, it's the single greatest cause of unbelief, and the literal reason Christians are thought of as hypocrites. I always have this image burned in my mind of this guy saying, "I'm good as you are, preacher." And he was right. And he was wrong. And that entire understanding has nothing whatsoever to do with the topic of Christianity. Most people read the parable of the "prodigal son" (really it should be the prodigal Father) and always believe we are the younger son who ran away. No sir, we are the jackass older brother who believes our "good behavior" should've earned us greater favor. "Father I've always acted right, I deserve it! So why are you giving it to the son who ran off and acted bad??" No man will ever burn in Hell for harm he's done. No man will ever escape Hell because he was godly. No man IS godly because of anything about himself whatsoever. That simply ain't how it works (yet even most Christians think it is) "If we could just get this country to be godly, people would act right." Eh, well, um...sounds all pretty, ain't gonna happen. But anyway...

You aren't born going to Heaven, then relegated to Hell because you acted badly. Conversely you aren't then restored back to Heaven because you chose to act godly, said I'm sorry, etc.
You were born going to Hell and will remain so unless God changes your mind about who Jesus is and what you are to do about it. Even then, your behavior might not change much, you may not have been a bad behaver to start with. YOU don't have anything to do with it. You can't help it, you can't hurt it. You were born that way, it's not your mind and your hands, it's your very fiber of being. You were not obrn just a little spiritually sick, you were born spiritually dead, and that's as bad as it gets. You, Mother Teresa, and Charles Manson were all born on equal footing with the Lord (completely separated from Him), and COULD die on equal footing with the Lord (completely separated from Him). It has NOTHING to do with your behavior. You don't decide to be good or bad, you already are bad. This is not a bell curve or a graph chart, YOU aren't the measuring stick whatsoever. Manson won't be in Hell for killing or acting evil, but because he was separated from God. Mother Teresa won't go to Heaven because she was loving and helpful, but only if she was drawn by the Spirit to trust Jesus.

In scripture when Jesus exclaimed from the cross, "It is finished!!!", he meant the plan to make you NOT SEPARATED from God anymore was finished. This is not about being good or bad, it is about being separated from God or not. Those of us who are "with" God still act like idiots and jackasses all the time!...trust me, it ain't about our behavior (thank God). The "hope" we talked about way back at the first of this thread isn't about hoping for political victory, or hoping people won't be idiots anymore. That will NEVER happen, stop it, it's foolishness and ignorance of unbelief.


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Good deal, in the meantime ill be praying for you.


Me too.

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