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What is wrong with our country #2669170
12/11/18 08:26 AM
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As I see it the leadership of this country is in deep trouble. The democrats are against everything and that Nancy P. women needs to go, I thought they were supposed to be the voice of the people and not express their own personal views. The news media especially CNN doesn't report news anymore, it has become just a Trump bashing program. Our religious values are being thrown out the door. Gays and other similar groups have a bigger voice than the rest of the 98 percent of the folks. Recently a teacher in one of our schools was fired because she refused to stop the practice of saying a prayer before class. I feel for my grandchildren to have to grow up in what our country is becoming. It truly make me sad.

Re: What is wrong with our country [Re: deerman24] #2669180
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Raise you kids, grandchildren not to be dimtards.

Re: What is wrong with our country [Re: 700ltr308] #2669186
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Originally Posted by 700ltr308
Raise you kids, grandchildren not to be dimtards.


Teach them to have any kind of life you MUST go to college and make a huge pile of money. When they get to college, the ultra dimtard professors will erase everything you have taught them and fill their head full of atheism, evolution, and freedom of expression. Hey, but atleast theyll have the huge pile of money, right.then they can go down to the peace and happiness store and buy some of that. Dont worry though, Opray says God loves everybody just the way they are and everybody goes to heaven.

Re: What is wrong with our country [Re: deerman24] #2669187
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Buy more guns from individuals and not storefronts and stay prepared.


There are two rules for success: 1. Never tell everything you know.
Re: What is wrong with our country [Re: jwalker77] #2669193
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Originally Posted by jwalker77
When they get to college, the ultra dimtard professors will erase everything you have taught them and fill their head full of atheism, evolution, and freedom of expression.


This is why I love aldeer beers rofl

Re: What is wrong with our country [Re: deerman24] #2669206
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You want to know what is wrong with our country? The decreasing number of Godly men

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Re: What is wrong with our country [Re: deerman24] #2669217
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It’s simply a lack of fear and awe of Almighty God! He is not loved and taught in the home. He is not perused above all else! The nation goes as the home goes. Satan’s strategy from the very beginning is to get man to disobey and dishonor his Creator. Thank God though for redemption and hope that is in Christ Jesus! May every man and father find what God intends! Read the book of John from the New Testament of the Holy Bible. There is hope!!! Even read 1 chapter aloud every day to your children.


Sow righteousness for yourselves and reap faithful love;
break up your unplowed ground. It is time to seek the Lord until He comes and sends righteousness on you like the rain. - Hosea 10:12
Re: What is wrong with our country [Re: deerman24] #2669220
12/11/18 09:16 AM
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Just enjoy your life and try to block out all the idiots. I have basically quit watching network tv and news. I vote conservative, live conservative and raise my kids that way. There will always be liberal idiots around, just try to block them out. Have one at work and I don't even talk or listen to her, just phase her out. Ha Ha Pisses them off when you don't even respond to them, they just want an argument anyway.

Re: What is wrong with our country [Re: deerman24] #2669227
12/11/18 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by deerman24
As I see it the leadership of this country is in deep trouble. The democrats are against everything and that Nancy P. women needs to go, I thought they were supposed to be the voice of the people and not express their own personal views. The news media especially CNN doesn't report news anymore, it has become just a Trump bashing program. Our religious values are being thrown out the door. Gays and other similar groups have a bigger voice than the rest of the 98 percent of the folks. Recently a teacher in one of our schools was fired because she refused to stop the practice of saying a prayer before class. I feel for my grandchildren to have to grow up in what our country is becoming. It truly make me sad.


Step 1: TURN OFF THE NEWS. Society, as a whole, isn't nearly as bad off as the news makes it out to be. The problem is that the small percentage of screwed up people that can't get along with one another is what has become "entertaining" and therefore that's what gets shown nonstop, 24hrs a day. It gives you the impression that the ENTIRE country is that way, and it's just not. Go out in public and just observe....an overwhelming majority of people get along with one another perfectly fine.


There are 3 certainties in an uncertain world:

1. All Politicians Are Liars
2. All Gun Laws Are an Infringement
3. Taxation Is Theft
Re: What is wrong with our country [Re: deerman24] #2669230
12/11/18 09:25 AM
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as an aside.....I went to college and, somehow, I didn't catch The Gay and I still love guns......

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There are 3 certainties in an uncertain world:

1. All Politicians Are Liars
2. All Gun Laws Are an Infringement
3. Taxation Is Theft
Re: What is wrong with our country [Re: GomerPyle] #2669270
12/11/18 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by GomerPyle

as an aside.....I went to college and, somehow, I didn't catch The Gay and I still love guns......

[Linked Image]


Same here. You only take in what you were open to to begin with.


"You think I care? Roll Damn Tide"

Have you tried Google?
Re: What is wrong with our country [Re: GomerPyle] #2669421
12/11/18 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by GomerPyle

as an aside.....I went to college and, somehow, I didn't catch The Gay and I still love guns......

[Linked Image]


[Linked Image]

You sure u didn't catch the Gay? grin rofl


Do not regret growing older, it's a privilege denied to many!

Re: What is wrong with our country [Re: James] #2669426
12/11/18 12:42 PM
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[Linked Image]


There are 3 certainties in an uncertain world:

1. All Politicians Are Liars
2. All Gun Laws Are an Infringement
3. Taxation Is Theft
Re: What is wrong with our country [Re: lefthorn] #2669463
12/11/18 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by lefthorn
You want to know what is wrong with our country? The decreasing number of Godly men


This x1000000


Isaiah 5:20 Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.
Re: What is wrong with our country [Re: deerman24] #2669681
12/11/18 06:18 PM
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Senators and Congress persons believing they know what's best for the country and even more believing that their constituents are so ignorant and have no idea whats best.

Re: What is wrong with our country [Re: deerman24] #2669683
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Dimtards

Re: What is wrong with our country [Re: deerman24] #2669697
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Career politicians, the media and uneducated entitled people is what's wrong with this country. The media, Democrats and half the Republicans would rather see the country fail than the current president and the country succeed. All people in power fear is lost of power. Its absolutely disgusting how these people act. They sit on their high horses behind their gates and guards while the country is being invaded with illegal immigrants who are nothing more than a drain on our economy. The question is or should be...... how did we let this shucks get so far out of hand that there realistically isn't any going back? The Democrats will get back in total power again at some point (they already have the House) and they will destroy this country while they sit in power above all the common folk untouched.


In your darkest hour when the demons come, call on me brother and we'll fight them together.
Re: What is wrong with our country [Re: deerman24] #2669706
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It's fixable. Take some work but it's fixable.


Skinny is my EX.Alcohol was involved.
Re: What is wrong with our country [Re: deerman24] #2669821
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I been saying and still believe, this country needs a civil war. It’s the only way to stop this liberal, democrat, socialist folks. Most of us working folks aren’t nothing but a tax slave. Add up all the taxes you pay, I mean everything. It will make you sick to the stomach!

Re: What is wrong with our country [Re: deerman24] #2669834
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Government handouts are the biggest problem. Paying able bodied people to not work is absurd


If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
Re: What is wrong with our country [Re: deerman24] #2669878
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Read FurFlyin’s signature line..... that’s all that is needed to turn our country around.


Jesus... I hope you know Him personally like I do.

Si vis pacem, para bellum.

Proud crossbow hunter!
Re: What is wrong with our country [Re: deerman24] #2670030
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Read Revelations.....it’s going to happen. Take the time while your kids are in your home to teach them the truth about God, man, and Gods son Jesus. Jesus is the answer. Every answer to life’s questions have already been answered for us in the Bible. Just read it!!!

Men are responsible for all of this. We need Godly Men!


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Re: What is wrong with our country [Re: deerman24] #2670088
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is sad so many has to seek hope from a god . is there no hope with out him ?

why does a good man have to be godly or can you be a good man with out being godly ??

Re: What is wrong with our country [Re: Frankie] #2670431
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Originally Posted by Frankie
is sad so many has to seek hope from a god . is there no hope with out him ?

why does a good man have to be godly or can you be a good man with out being godly ??



Actually a good question, Frankie. Might sound like I'm setting you up, but I'm not.... define "hope"? (you and I likely agree)


We were on the edge of Eternia, when the power of Greyskull began to take hold.
Re: What is wrong with our country [Re: deerman24] #2670448
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to many people allowed to vote themselves more free handouts as long as politicians can buy votes with welfare programs we will keep declining. the founders never intended it to be that way back then you had to be a property owner or in other words you had to have something to bring to the table. now we have to many leaches voting themselves "free" stuff while the rest of us pay for it. it's like what the unions did with the auto industry in Detroit on a grander scale. beggars can't be choosers until election time I guess.

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Re: What is wrong with our country [Re: Frankie] #2670488
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Originally Posted by Frankie
is sad so many has to seek hope from a god . is there no hope with out him ?

why does a good man have to be godly or can you be a good man with out being godly ??



“And he said, "What comes out of a person is what defiles him. For from within, out of the heart of man, come evil thoughts, sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery, coveting, wickedness, deceit, sensuality, envy, slander, pride, foolishness. All these evil things come from within, and they defile a person."”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭7:20-23‬ ‭ESV‬‬
http://bible.com/59/mrk.7.20-23.esv

Re: What is wrong with our country [Re: deerman24] #2670489
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“The natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned.”
‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭2:14‬ ‭ESV‬‬
http://bible.com/59/1co.2.14.esv

Re: What is wrong with our country [Re: deerman24] #2670505
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so saith the lord !!!!!! amen !!!

Re: What is wrong with our country [Re: deerman24] #2670507
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We have lazy scumbags on assistance and illegal aliens living better than some working Americans. That is wrong. Can't believe this is happening in America. Vote conservative.

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Re: What is wrong with our country [Re: Frankie] #2670865
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Originally Posted by Frankie
is sad so many has to seek hope from a god . is there no hope with out him ?

why does a good man have to be godly or can you be a good man with out being godly ??


What we see as good is just filthy rags in the eyes of God. His standard of "good" is much higher than ours.


"The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him."
-G. K. Chesterton
Re: What is wrong with our country [Re: deerman24] #2670874
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What would be sad is the guy in hell burning for eternity calling out to God for help but God does not hear him, that is a man with no hope. A man who is still breathing has hope.

Re: What is wrong with our country [Re: jwalker77] #2670886
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Originally Posted by jwalker77
What would be sad is the guy in hell burning for eternity calling out to God for help but God does not hear him, that is a man with no hope. A man who is still breathing has hope.



lol ,,, you might be right , commit any horrible crime and you get through the gates just by asking for forgiveness .

BUT, take a man that has never done no harm will burn in hell if he aint godly .

believe what you want i aint buying that bill of goods .

Re: What is wrong with our country [Re: Frankie] #2670895
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Originally Posted by Frankie


BUT, take a man that has never done no harm will burn in hell if he aint godly .

believe what you want i aint buying that bill of goods .

And that will be the single, most important decision you will have to make in your entire life. Choose wisely.


"The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him."
-G. K. Chesterton
Re: What is wrong with our country [Re: deerman24] #2670911
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Frankie, if you want to know the truth regarding this matter, inquire of the Lord what you should believe. I know my Lord would not deny any man the truth who is trully seeking truth. But as stated above, choose wisely what you believe. Im not suggesting you believe me, but you would have to agree you can believe the Lord, talk to him about it.

Re: What is wrong with our country [Re: deerman24] #2670922
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i'll call him first thing in the morning and see what we can work out on my soul .

Re: What is wrong with our country [Re: deerman24] #2670931
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Good deal, in the meantime ill be praying for you.

Re: What is wrong with our country [Re: deerman24] #2670973
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Re: What is wrong with our country [Re: Frankie] #2671449
12/13/18 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Frankie
Originally Posted by jwalker77
What would be sad is the guy in hell burning for eternity calling out to God for help but God does not hear him, that is a man with no hope. A man who is still breathing has hope.



lol ,,, you might be right , commit any horrible crime and you get through the gates just by asking for forgiveness .

BUT, take a man that has never done no harm will burn in hell if he aint godly .

believe what you want i aint buying that bill of goods .


That's the issue, that man doesn't exist. That's behavioral-modification-understanding at it's finest, it's the baseline/default mentality of humanity, it's all about my behavior. It's the single biggest obstacle to evangelizing the unbeliever too. By and large, most people think they are good. I behave good, I think nice thoughts, I help people, I don't commit crime, etc. I think the single biggest error of understanding BOTH with believers inside the church, and with unbelievers outside the church (usually about those inside the church) is that one's behavior has anything whatsoever to do with Christianity. In fact, it's the single greatest cause of unbelief, and the literal reason Christians are thought of as hypocrites. I always have this image burned in my mind of this guy saying, "I'm good as you are, preacher." And he was right. And he was wrong. And that entire understanding has nothing whatsoever to do with the topic of Christianity. Most people read the parable of the "prodigal son" (really it should be the prodigal Father) and always believe we are the younger son who ran away. No sir, we are the jackass older brother who believes our "good behavior" should've earned us greater favor. "Father I've always acted right, I deserve it! So why are you giving it to the son who ran off and acted bad??" No man will ever burn in Hell for harm he's done. No man will ever escape Hell because he was godly. No man IS godly because of anything about himself whatsoever. That simply ain't how it works (yet even most Christians think it is) "If we could just get this country to be godly, people would act right." Eh, well, um...sounds all pretty, ain't gonna happen. But anyway...

You aren't born going to Heaven, then relegated to Hell because you acted badly. Conversely you aren't then restored back to Heaven because you chose to act godly, said I'm sorry, etc.
You were born going to Hell and will remain so unless God changes your mind about who Jesus is and what you are to do about it. Even then, your behavior might not change much, you may not have been a bad behaver to start with. YOU don't have anything to do with it. You can't help it, you can't hurt it. You were born that way, it's not your mind and your hands, it's your very fiber of being. You were not obrn just a little spiritually sick, you were born spiritually dead, and that's as bad as it gets. You, Mother Teresa, and Charles Manson were all born on equal footing with the Lord (completely separated from Him), and COULD die on equal footing with the Lord (completely separated from Him). It has NOTHING to do with your behavior. You don't decide to be good or bad, you already are bad. This is not a bell curve or a graph chart, YOU aren't the measuring stick whatsoever. Manson won't be in Hell for killing or acting evil, but because he was separated from God. Mother Teresa won't go to Heaven because she was loving and helpful, but only if she was drawn by the Spirit to trust Jesus.

In scripture when Jesus exclaimed from the cross, "It is finished!!!", he meant the plan to make you NOT SEPARATED from God anymore was finished. This is not about being good or bad, it is about being separated from God or not. Those of us who are "with" God still act like idiots and jackasses all the time!...trust me, it ain't about our behavior (thank God). The "hope" we talked about way back at the first of this thread isn't about hoping for political victory, or hoping people won't be idiots anymore. That will NEVER happen, stop it, it's foolishness and ignorance of unbelief.


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Re: What is wrong with our country [Re: jwalker77] #2671486
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Originally Posted by jwalker77
Good deal, in the meantime ill be praying for you.


Me too.

Re: What is wrong with our country [Re: deerman24] #2671495
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Re: What is wrong with our country [Re: Frankie] #2671514
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Originally Posted by Frankie
is sad so many has to seek hope from a god . is there no hope with out him ?

why does a good man have to be godly or can you be a good man with out being godly ??



No. there isn't. and no you can't. There's a difference between what the world calls "good" and what God calls "good'. Good worldly men are what got us into this mess.

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Re: What is wrong with our country [Re: ikillbux] #2671515
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Originally Posted by ikillbux
Originally Posted by Frankie
Originally Posted by jwalker77
What would be sad is the guy in hell burning for eternity calling out to God for help but God does not hear him, that is a man with no hope. A man who is still breathing has hope.



lol ,,, you might be right , commit any horrible crime and you get through the gates just by asking for forgiveness .

BUT, take a man that has never done no harm will burn in hell if he aint godly .

believe what you want i aint buying that bill of goods .


That's the issue, that man doesn't exist. That's behavioral-modification-understanding at it's finest, it's the baseline/default mentality of humanity, it's all about my behavior. It's the single biggest obstacle to evangelizing the unbeliever too. By and large, most people think they are good. I behave good, I think nice thoughts, I help people, I don't commit crime, etc. I think the single biggest error of understanding BOTH with believers inside the church, and with unbelievers outside the church (usually about those inside the church) is that one's behavior has anything whatsoever to do with Christianity. In fact, it's the single greatest cause of unbelief, and the literal reason Christians are thought of as hypocrites. I always have this image burned in my mind of this guy saying, "I'm good as you are, preacher." And he was right. And he was wrong. And that entire understanding has nothing whatsoever to do with the topic of Christianity. Most people read the parable of the "prodigal son" (really it should be the prodigal Father) and always believe we are the younger son who ran away. No sir, we are the jackass older brother who believes our "good behavior" should've earned us greater favor. "Father I've always acted right, I deserve it! So why are you giving it to the son who ran off and acted bad??" No man will ever burn in Hell for harm he's done. No man will ever escape Hell because he was godly. No man IS godly because of anything about himself whatsoever. That simply ain't how it works (yet even most Christians think it is) "If we could just get this country to be godly, people would act right." Eh, well, um...sounds all pretty, ain't gonna happen. But anyway...

You aren't born going to Heaven, then relegated to Hell because you acted badly. Conversely you aren't then restored back to Heaven because you chose to act godly, said I'm sorry, etc.
You were born going to Hell and will remain so unless God changes your mind about who Jesus is and what you are to do about it. Even then, your behavior might not change much, you may not have been a bad behaver to start with. YOU don't have anything to do with it. You can't help it, you can't hurt it. You were born that way, it's not your mind and your hands, it's your very fiber of being. You were not obrn just a little spiritually sick, you were born spiritually dead, and that's as bad as it gets. You, Mother Teresa, and Charles Manson were all born on equal footing with the Lord (completely separated from Him), and COULD die on equal footing with the Lord (completely separated from Him). It has NOTHING to do with your behavior. You don't decide to be good or bad, you already are bad. This is not a bell curve or a graph chart, YOU aren't the measuring stick whatsoever. Manson won't be in Hell for killing or acting evil, but because he was separated from God. Mother Teresa won't go to Heaven because she was loving and helpful, but only if she was drawn by the Spirit to trust Jesus.

In scripture when Jesus exclaimed from the cross, "It is finished!!!", he meant the plan to make you NOT SEPARATED from God anymore was finished. This is not about being good or bad, it is about being separated from God or not. Those of us who are "with" God still act like idiots and jackasses all the time!...trust me, it ain't about our behavior (thank God). The "hope" we talked about way back at the first of this thread isn't about hoping for political victory, or hoping people won't be idiots anymore. That will NEVER happen, stop it, it's foolishness and ignorance of unbelief.



Spot on.

Re: What is wrong with our country [Re: deerman24] #2671533
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Excellent post ikillbux. Thank you

Re: What is wrong with our country [Re: deerman24] #2671557
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I have been thinking about this post and want to share some thoughts about it. We have become a me first society. We do and say what is pleasing to us. We put other people down to make ourselves feel better about our lot in life. When we see someone going through a hard time how many of us reach out and help however we can? Somehow, we justify this person is getting what they deserve or karma is finally getting back at them for what they have done, so we move on about our lives. I think back to some of the values our grandparents and parents were raised with. I know mine would try to help whenever they could. It was this mentality that got them through the tough times in the US history. They had to live this way to survive. Somewhere along the way we have forgotten the true value of a human life. We look at people with the wrong focus. We see all the bad and negative things about them and this helps us determine their worth. Where we are right now as a Country is not flattering to who we have been as a Country. You think back days after 9/11 you see what makes this country great it was people in action serving one another with no thought about race, color, political affiliation. We looked on each other with love and compassion we were not divided as we are now. We truly were United as a country and we over looked the flaws and imperfections of those who surrounded us. We were tolerant to things that was said and discussed we held no ill will towards our fellow Americans. We longed for justice for those who died who lost their lives at the hands of terrorist. We didn't care if they were right, left, Christians or not, homo or hetro, they were Americans and we mourned for them and their families. Division and hate is causing us to turn a complete 180 degrees to where we are now. The media is fueling this war. In the end it comes down to matters of the heart. Where do we stand and how do we treat others? God created man in his own image, Male and female he created us in his image. I wonder how much different we would treat each other if we saw God looking back us every time we feel the need to let someone have it or roll our eyes when we hear something we don't want to hear.

Re: What is wrong with our country [Re: deerman24] #2672987
12/14/18 05:23 PM
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The landslide change in American culture has really occurred only in the last 10 years (+,-). It's not a moral issue, people aren't more or less moral today than they've ever been. Perhaps the ways we show immorality ebb and flow with modern twists, but again I don't think that's the "division" that is so evident nowadays. I hesitate to even call it a political divide, but it shows itself in the political arena. The thing that's "wrong with our country" (was the original point of this whole thread) is anti-colonialism. The number of people who despise America, and the fervor of which they hate it with, has grown exponentially. Take this crap going on in Hoover right now, it's not about racism, it's anti-colonialism. It's the age-old "Robin Hood" story. There's a ruling class that oppresses a lesser class, as it goes, so the lesser class is fighting back. Wealth isn't earned, it's stolen. Power isn't achieved, it's wrestled from the oppressed. They are poor because it's your fault. This is as real to those people as are our beliefs to the contrary. Until we can remove that mentality from America, this snowball is going to get bigger and bigger until something is destroyed.


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