Says the guy who carries two buckets of yellow gold into the woods every time he hunts!

speaking of the you know....

CWD has NOT always been in the soil. Period . Once it gets there it may well always be there. No existence of CWD prior to 1965

Yeah right....haven't hunted a single damn day this year

not a whole lot of data that says if they know much of anything about it a lack of data doesn't make it safe.

There is a direct correlation to humans with CWD right now..... She is Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez that's the only explanation I got.

Me to would not be worth the hassle of killing one.

Off subject but something I have found funny. I have been watching 2 guys for the past two seasons. I'm on my property on a big hill. Drops down to a bottom and back up to their property which is a cutover. They come in separate vehicles but park together. EVERY time they go in they have a rifle in one hand and a 50# bag of something about 1/3 full in their other hand. May just be snacks for a long sit.

I believe you are dealing with master baiters.

Should spread like wildfire when it arrives.

BS!!! I AIN'T WATCHING NO MASTER BAITERS....NOT MEN ANYWAY!!!

Do we have to keep the deer from screwing too? Deer condoms?

I’ve seen you state this before. I have no grounds to refute it, and I know you’ve been plugged in to these conversations over the years more than the vast majority. That said, is it not possible that it always existed, and was just never diagnosed or misdiagnosed as something else prior to 1965?

YAY! More bullshitt

Ike, I don't think so. I have studied CWD for more than35 years. In the 90s one researcher back traced every known CWD occurrence in the US and Canada and EVERY SINGLE ONE backtracked to Ft Collins and the research station there where the early (1965) research was done. If you look at a new map of known CWD you will see a huge red spot just north of Ft Collins where those same researchers turned loose extra does from the pens back to the wild. Anyone who has really studied the history of CWD in the US can come to no other conclusion than it originated in the research pens at FT Collins.

One of the grad student researchers, Beth Williams, who later got her doctorate and identified CWD as a TSE disease said she thought that they(the researchers) had accidentally set the stage for the birth of a new disease.

Troy, what was the original problem they were trying to solve? Stories like this don't inspire me to want to give more control of our wildlife resources to government.

A few things I can't get past in my simple mind. First is how the very first animal got TSE. We will probably never know. Second is how a prion can survive temperatures that have been tested up to 2000 degrees or radiation. Just doesn't seem possible.

There is no "survive". It's not alive to begin with. It's a protein, which is just a molecule. It's not a bacteria with its own replication apparatus. The protein happens to be misfolded and affects the host in different ways.

It's like asking how a brick or stone can survive through a fire, it just sits there.

It’s not alive, so it doesn’t have to survive.

It’s a folded protein bundle, and those folds give it extreme tolerability. They’re almost impossible to denature.

I didn't mean survive like kill but survive like still being able to be passed on. That kind of temp is just unreal.

Steve, the researchers were doing something concerning mule deer, don't remember what now. They trapped bred mule deer does and placed them in a large research pen that had previously held scrappy infected sheep that were being studied by some other researchers. When the study ended they killed all the sheep. Afterwards the deer were placed in the same pens that were saturated with sheep urine/droppings/etc. After the does had the fawns the does were released back just north of Ft Collins, and others were sent to zoos, enclosures, other research areas in western states. The prevailing thought at the time was that Scrappie, being a TSE disease, was species specific. Which, it turns out, wasn't the case. Due to the lone incubation period the deer didn't show any signs of being sick when they were released or shipped out to other places.