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Re: DIY elk trip [Re: ColeT] #2718310
01/25/19 11:08 PM
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I was struggling to breathe at crested butte a few weeks ago. And all I was doing was goofing off. No way I’m hunting up there. Raton NM was just perfect for me on my elk hunt.


Quietly killing turkeys where youre not!!!
My tank full of give a fraks been runnin on empty
I'm the paterfamilias
Re: DIY elk trip [Re: ColeT] #2718311
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Here's a list of items I made about 6wks before season last year. You can take what ya want. Just remember weight matters when ya sucking eggs...
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Re: DIY elk trip [Re: ColeT] #2718371
01/26/19 12:37 AM
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If you need a base camp in Colorado Springs, let me know I might be able to help.

The altitude is the biggest opponent you'll face. The Bammers have said as much but I live out here.


Been here long enough to go from "bring 'da pain" to " bring 'da pain meds.
Re: DIY elk trip [Re: mcninja] #2718390
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Originally Posted by mcninja
Start training hard.


^^^^THIS^^^ Training mask and weight vest. Start off with mask configured for 3000' and build up in altitude, 20lbs in the weight vest to start, Walk at least 2 miles 3-4 days a week


When I need expert advice I tend to talk to myself
The older I get the better I used to be
Re: DIY elk trip [Re: deadeye48] #2718398
01/26/19 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by deadeye48
Originally Posted by mcninja
Start training hard.


^^^^THIS^^^ Training mask and weight vest. Start off with mask configured for 3000' and build up in altitude, 20lbs in the weight vest to start, Walk at least 2 miles 3-4 days a week


up and down, not flat. Stairs, stadium steps, stairwells, etc.


I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....

proud Cracker-Americaan

muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
Re: DIY elk trip [Re: BhamFred] #2718425
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Originally Posted by BhamFred
Originally Posted by deadeye48
Originally Posted by mcninja
Start training hard.


^^^^THIS^^^ Training mask and weight vest. Start off with mask configured for 3000' and build up in altitude, 20lbs in the weight vest to start, Walk at least 2 miles 3-4 days a week


up and down, not flat. Stairs, stadium steps, stairwells, etc.


I filled my backpack with books and walked the stadium steps. If you are in N Alabama, find some mountain trails to climb. You also might want to get a presript for Diamox from your Doc since no matter how good of shape you are in, you can still get the altitude sickness and it is miserable. It will ruin your trip and can be prevented with the Diamox. The only negative to the Diamox is that it makes carbonated beverages taste like aluminum for some reason.


Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
Re: DIY elk trip [Re: ColeT] #2718459
01/26/19 08:21 AM
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and the higher altitude will make you fart like crazy.... shocked


I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....

proud Cracker-Americaan

muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
Re: DIY elk trip [Re: ColeT] #2718512
01/26/19 09:17 AM
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1. Buy stiff mountain boots, don't spare expense. Then break them in. Mine took 50 miles and the vertical miles are the most important. That heel rub when going straight up will form a blister fast. Go ahead and get this....
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000E59HXC/ref=oh_aui_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Its amazing stuff and when you feel that blister setting in, apply.

2. Work out big time. Elk hunting is lots of calm, followed by moments of maximum cardio effort, followed by trying to calm yourself to make a shot. Stadiums are the most effective for me. This time a year, I'm running twice a week, stadiums twice a week and weights (lots of core) twice a week. As I get into July, I'll add a day of stadiums and drop a day of weights. I'm not saying that this is a key to success, but it works for me and I'm able to hit the mountains hard and fast. As mentioned already, using a weighted pack is key. I put two 25lb barbells wrapped in towels and duct taped. It works well.

3. Get comfortable shooting 500-600 yards. You may not shoot that far, but you'll increase your shot opportunities if you do.

4. Get comfortable shooting with your lungs and heart heaving out of your chest. Run gassers at the range, then get down on the stock and work on calming down a bit for a smooth trigger pull. Also, get off the bench table, shoot prone, from your backpack and any other permutation you can imagine.

5. Trekking poles make a huge difference. When you climb (or descend) 2000 vertical feet in a mile, you'll do it a lot faster with one or two trekking poles. I don't know why, just is.

6. OnX maps is a game changer. Spend the $ and learn how to use it. Elk don't like roads. Put together a digital game plan for your unit long before leaving alabama. Try to get 1.5-2 miles away from a road. Do that before dawn. If you don't see elk, keep moving. The next day, go to another trail/canyon/ridge line/etc.

7. Game bags, a plastic drop cloth, good blade and gloves for breaking that beast down in the field. I've also used paracord in timber to help tie a quarter back, etc. Some marking tape, in case you need to hang quarters and have to mark a trail to get back the next day. If feasible, I'd learn the gutless method and plan on boning those quarters in the field. The drop cloth gives you a clean surface to work on and you can wrap it up around bagged quarters to keep everything from being soaked in blood (that'll happen anyway).

8. Survival kit as mentioned. Make sure you've got a way to start a fire. This last year I think I started a fire for lunch every day (it was cold). Trioxane tablets and hurricane matches will light wet rocks on fire.

10. Get used to getting behind glass. Days consist of hiking and glassing.


You'll never be the same. I go somewhere out west every fall and it's my favorite week of the year. It actually has made WT hunting less enjoyable. I still try to kill a few WT's every year but I'm always dreaming about getting up in that thin air again.


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Re: DIY elk trip [Re: ColeT] #2718515
01/26/19 09:22 AM
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Another thing, don't let the mountain beat you.

I remember reading this story about a SEAL instructor who talked about the guys who showed up for training who looked like Galileo had carved their bodies out of granite and invariably those guys dropped out. Then, the pudgy kids from rural Oklahoma or Iowa who would not be beat down. They would not quit, even if they weren't as physically gifted.

Morale of the story? Be the pudgy rural kid who doesn't quit. A lot of effort is mental.

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Re: DIY elk trip [Re: ColeT] #2718525
01/26/19 09:29 AM
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a girl who hunted with us at 9000ft had a headache and nosebleed the whole time we were hunting.

a guy that went with me got an attack of altitude sickness when we arrived at the trailhead at 900o ft and I had to rush him to the hospital because he was having great difficulty breathing.


I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....

proud Cracker-Americaan

muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
Re: DIY elk trip [Re: ColeT] #2718555
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The hotel we stayed at was 9500ft and when the shower got hot you couldn’t hardly catch your breath at all.


Quietly killing turkeys where youre not!!!
My tank full of give a fraks been runnin on empty
I'm the paterfamilias
Re: DIY elk trip [Re: ColeT] #2718559
01/26/19 10:24 AM
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first time I went we camped for a week in the mountains. When we came out and hit the road home we stopped at a motel and rented a room just to take a hot shower, I think I stayed in the shower for an hour.


I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....

proud Cracker-Americaan

muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
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