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Re: Proof requirements for hunting over bait [Re: War87Eagle] #2740244
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You won't ever see a pic of me with a damn orange hat on, I wear one hunting, never in a pic. I have a pic of my grandson with a deer in the back of my truck with corn spilled in the bed. The deer was killed four counties away from where the corn was fed.


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Re: Proof requirements for hunting over bait [Re: wheelgun] #2740248
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Originally Posted by wheelgun
Originally Posted by ronfromramer
That is some Gestapo bullchit right there. No way they can prove that without a reasonable doubt. Way too many assumptions on game wardens part

Kinda making assumptions yourself. Why is the warden automatically wrong. How do you know the op aint telling the story to make himself the injured party?. It would not be the first time someone has posted something less than the truth.


It definitely goes both ways and no assumptions should be made one way or the other. I'll add that everything you said could be applied to LE and GW's , too. I've seen some lie and bend the truth to fit their agenda , or just simply ignore the constitutional rights of the person they've decided is guilty. I distrust civilians and law enforcement equally unless I personally know them.


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Re: Proof requirements for hunting over bait [Re: timbercruiser] #2740249
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Originally Posted by timbercruiser
Any chance the game check timed in at the same time the Facebook picture was posted?


Very key question ^^^^^^

Also comparing time, date, location, stamps from all photos WITH the Gamecheck info that they supposedly don't use. I.E> time, date, LOCATION.


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Re: Proof requirements for hunting over bait [Re: wheelgun] #2740252
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Originally Posted by wheelgun
Originally Posted by ronfromramer
That is some Gestapo bullchit right there. No way they can prove that without a reasonable doubt. Way too many assumptions on game wardens part

Kinda making assumptions yourself. Why is the warden automatically wrong. How do you know the op aint telling the story to make himself the injured party?. It would not be the first time someone has posted something less than the truth.


Based on the pictures, prove he's guilty. What evidence shows he pulled the trigger on that deer while he was in the process of eating said corn? No GW there to prove he did it. No GW was there prior to the deer being killed to see if it was a baited area. No GW there to hear the gun shot when the deer hit the ground. I've yet to see anything in those pics that he killed it while hunting OVER corn. All we have is a pic of a deer with corn on the ground. I guess I'm guilty of using cocaine if I post a picture of me at a party where cocaine is being used yet I never snorted one line. Does it look bad? Yeah it does. Is either one of us guilty based on a picture? Hell to the no!


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Re: Proof requirements for hunting over bait [Re: War87Eagle] #2740253
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game check does not have to match date on pic, he has plenty of time to call it in after the kill. Just write it on yer little piece of paper and move it on.


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Re: Proof requirements for hunting over bait [Re: BhamFred] #2740264
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Originally Posted by BhamFred
1. never post any pics of deer you kill anywhere
2. never talk to the popo ever
3.-10. see #1 and #2.

Bingo!

From his comments, it appears the OP is an amateur deer hunting pro posting videos of his kills hoping to be the next Boner Collector. If you fancy yourself as a deer hunting pro, don't post pictures with your kill on a corn pile and night vision scopes on your weapon for sure. My guess is the po po has been viewing the Facebook page for a while waiting for the right opportunity...


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Re: Proof requirements for hunting over bait [Re: BhamFred] #2740269
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Originally Posted by BhamFred
game check does not have to match date on pic, he has plenty of time to call it in after the kill. Just write it on yer little piece of paper and move it on.


Yes, he may write it on paper, easy, peasy. BUT, if he used the iPhone/Gamecheck method sole, (because, remember, it MUST be recorded, either way, paper or electronic BEFORE moving the animal) it could technically prove the deer and corn were present, together before the animal was moved. Where am I wrong? I haven't chosen a side here, just going with what we have.


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Re: Proof requirements for hunting over bait [Re: War87Eagle] #2740270
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Re: Proof requirements for hunting over bait [Re: War87Eagle] #2740272
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Re: Proof requirements for hunting over bait [Re: rulebreaker] #2740276
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Originally Posted by rulebreaker
Originally Posted by BhamFred
game check does not have to match date on pic, he has plenty of time to call it in after the kill. Just write it on yer little piece of paper and move it on.


Yes, he may write it on paper, easy, peasy. BUT, if he used the iPhone/Gamecheck method sole, (because, remember, it MUST be recorded, either way, paper or electronic BEFORE moving the animal) it could technically prove the deer and corn were present, together before the animal was moved. Where am I wrong? I haven't chosen a side here, just going with what we have.


he could of shot the deer at 300 yards out of sight of an feed, then the deer ran another 300 yards and fell near 5 kernels of corn. Pic doesn't prove anything about where/how the deer was shot.


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Re: Proof requirements for hunting over bait [Re: BhamFred] #2740279
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Originally Posted by BhamFred
Originally Posted by rulebreaker
Originally Posted by BhamFred
game check does not have to match date on pic, he has plenty of time to call it in after the kill. Just write it on yer little piece of paper and move it on.


Yes, he may write it on paper, easy, peasy. BUT, if he used the iPhone/Gamecheck method sole, (because, remember, it MUST be recorded, either way, paper or electronic BEFORE moving the animal) it could technically prove the deer and corn were present, together before the animal was moved. Where am I wrong? I haven't chosen a side here, just going with what we have.


he could of shot the deer at 300 yards out of sight of an feed, then the deer ran another 300 yards and fell near 5 kernels of corn. Pic doesn't prove anything about where/how the deer was shot.


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Re: Proof requirements for hunting over bait [Re: War87Eagle] #2740282
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All this over that dinky ass little deer? Dang


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Re: Proof requirements for hunting over bait [Re: 257wbymag] #2740283
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Originally Posted by 257wbymag
All this over that dinky ass little deer? Dang


Maybe the fine should be half price.


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Re: Proof requirements for hunting over bait [Re: ford150man] #2740284
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Originally Posted by ford150man
This doesn’t make a bit of difference now, and I truly mean no disrespect, but if it truly happened just as you say...WOW, what a boneheaded decision to take the pic with corn visible, and then make the pic public. You had to have known it would raise questions. You said you took the pic at the closest location you could drive to. Could you not have drug the deer two feet in either direction where the corn wasn’t visible?





Shouldn’t matter if I drag a deer up on a 10 foot high mound of corn to take his picture on. It matters where you kill the deer. Not where the pic was taken. Same as if you take a pic at night but you shot the deer at 4 but didn’t find him till 6. Time and place of pic mean nothing. It’s up to the warden to actually put in the leg work to prove it was killed illegally. Not asssume something from a pic while sitting at his desk eating Cheetos.



Re: Proof requirements for hunting over bait [Re: BhamFred] #2740286
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Originally Posted by BhamFred
Originally Posted by rulebreaker
Originally Posted by BhamFred
game check does not have to match date on pic, he has plenty of time to call it in after the kill. Just write it on yer little piece of paper and move it on.


Yes, he may write it on paper, easy, peasy. BUT, if he used the iPhone/Gamecheck method sole, (because, remember, it MUST be recorded, either way, paper or electronic BEFORE moving the animal) it could technically prove the deer and corn were present, together before the animal was moved. Where am I wrong? I haven't chosen a side here, just going with what we have.


he could of shot the deer at 300 yards out of sight of an feed, then the deer ran another 300 yards and fell near 5 kernels of corn. Pic doesn't prove anything about where/how the deer was shot.


Ok, gotcha. Very good point.


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Re: Proof requirements for hunting over bait [Re: Bamaturkeykilla] #2740290
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Originally Posted by Bamaturkeykilla
Originally Posted by 257wbymag
All this over that dinky ass little deer? Dang


Maybe the fine should be half price.


Kinda my thoughts


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Re: Proof requirements for hunting over bait [Re: War87Eagle] #2740293
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War87eagle, do you have any prior game law violations or convictions?


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Re: Proof requirements for hunting over bait [Re: FurFlyin] #2740294
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Originally Posted by FurFlyin
War87eagle, do you have any prior game law violations or convictions?


He said he had one at 15 I think.

Re: Proof requirements for hunting over bait [Re: War87Eagle] #2740296
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I have only gotten in trouble with the GW once at the age of 15. I'm 30years old now.
Yes I own a atn scope, I also hunt with that scope because of its video capabilities. Yes that same scope has a night mode but will only let you see at night with a separate IR light attached to it. I dont take this light with me so it doesn't have night vision capabilities.
I shouldn't post my kills on FB but on the other hand a picture of a dead deer at any location doesn't mean anything. It's a picture of a dead dear and that's all it is.
I meet up with him because I wanted to cooperate with him. I got my ticket we small talked about other things, I was nice, he was nice. Even asked him how I could get the night hunting permit for hogs ar another location I hunt. He knew what scope i used, he had one on a gun in his back seat. I told him the same as I told yall about the scope and IR requirements.
I will gather all of my evidence and have my court date.
I may not have a ton of evidence but all he has is a picture that I took and I will also use as evidence.
I'm not worried about it to much I just thought it was very crazy for me to get a ticket from a FB post.

Re: Proof requirements for hunting over bait [Re: 257wbymag] #2740298
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Maybe a little deer to you but from where he came from he is a nice one to me. We all are entitled to our own opinion though.

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