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Re: Proof requirements for hunting over bait [Re: War87Eagle] #2740127
02/17/19 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by War87Eagle
I received a hunting over bait ticket today 2-16-19 (6 days after deer season). They have a FB post of mine printed off. In the post are 2 pictures of my 8point dead. One from my phone, one from my ATN digital scope. In the photos there is corn on the ground under his dead body. I killed him 120-140 yards away on a heavy trail where he was working a fake scrape I made that day. I cant drive to that location so I drug him to the closest place I can drive to (My feeding area) at this time I change the batteries in my scope and take a picture of him. Then I go get my truck and once back take a picture with my phone, load him up and head home.
I dont see how I can get a ticket for hunting over bait when they have not physically caught me doing it.

What are your thoughts on this?

You know they cant write you a ticket for something they didntn see you do ??

Re: Proof requirements for hunting over bait [Re: War87Eagle] #2740128
02/17/19 07:21 AM
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Any chance the game check timed in at the same time the Facebook picture was posted?

Re: Proof requirements for hunting over bait [Re: War87Eagle] #2740130
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Originally Posted by War87Eagle
I received a hunting over bait ticket today 2-16-19 (6 days after deer season). They have a FB post of mine printed off. In the post are 2 pictures of my 8point dead. One from my phone, one from my ATN digital scope. In the photos there is corn on the ground under his dead body. I killed him 120-140 yards away on a heavy trail where he was working a fake scrape I made that day. I cant drive to that location so I drug him to the closest place I can drive to (My feeding area) at this time I change the batteries in my scope and take a picture of him. Then I go get my truck and once back take a picture with my phone, load him up and head home.
I dont see how I can get a ticket for hunting over bait when they have not physically caught me doing it.

What are your thoughts on this?

You know they cant write you a ticket for something they didntn see you do ??

Re: Proof requirements for hunting over bait [Re: War87Eagle] #2740138
02/17/19 07:38 AM
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The deer actually looks like he is still alive, but dying, in the scope pic.

Re: Proof requirements for hunting over bait [Re: Carlos] #2740146
02/17/19 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Carlos
Don’t post pics on fbook.


Little bit too late for that advice.

FB PICS is the reason he is where he is right now.

You can bet those PICS are already in the LEO's file for this case. thumbup

No issue with posting his PICS here because they were already on FB and that is where the officer got his info to issue this ticket.


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Re: Proof requirements for hunting over bait [Re: IDOT] #2740148
02/17/19 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by IDOT
Do I think he can prove you killed it over corn? No

Do I think you killed it over corn? Yes

Yep just pay the fine.

Re: Proof requirements for hunting over bait [Re: War87Eagle] #2740165
02/17/19 08:24 AM
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On face value , based only on what OP states it's total BS! Surely there is more to this story. However , there are those in law enforcement who will write something like this. If that's the case he should write him for hunting without written permission also. Just based on the pic it would make about as much sense .



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Re: Proof requirements for hunting over bait [Re: War87Eagle] #2740180
02/17/19 08:43 AM
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This doesn’t make a bit of difference now, and I truly mean no disrespect, but if it truly happened just as you say...WOW, what a boneheaded decision to take the pic with corn visible, and then make the pic public. You had to have known it would raise questions. You said you took the pic at the closest location you could drive to. Could you not have drug the deer two feet in either direction where the corn wasn’t visible?

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Re: Proof requirements for hunting over bait [Re: ford150man] #2740190
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Originally Posted by ford150man
This doesn’t make a bit of difference now, and I truly mean no disrespect, but if it truly happened just as you say...WOW, what a boneheaded decision to take the pic with corn visible, and then make the pic public. You had to have known it would raise questions. You said you took the pic at the closest location you could drive to. Could you not have drug the deer two feet in either direction where the corn wasn’t visible?



Yep. A little common sense and the OP wouldn’t be in this situation.


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Re: Proof requirements for hunting over bait [Re: War87Eagle] #2740198
02/17/19 09:15 AM
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The cops in town spotlight the field beside my house and one down the road....... and this guy gets a ticket for corn? Damn shame!! I’d fight it. Nothing wrong with dragging a deer somewhere you can drive to.

Re: Proof requirements for hunting over bait [Re: hvfs1118] #2740208
02/17/19 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by hvfs1118
Originally Posted by War87Eagle
I received a hunting over bait ticket today 2-16-19 (6 days after deer season). They have a FB post of mine printed off. In the post are 2 pictures of my 8point dead. One from my phone, one from my ATN digital scope. In the photos there is corn on the ground under his dead body. I killed him 120-140 yards away on a heavy trail where he was working a fake scrape I made that day. I cant drive to that location so I drug him to the closest place I can drive to (My feeding area) at this time I change the batteries in my scope and take a picture of him. Then I go get my truck and once back take a picture with my phone, load him up and head home.
I dont see how I can get a ticket for hunting over bait when they have not physically caught me doing it.

What are your thoughts on this?

You know they cant write you a ticket for something they didntn see you do ??


This is not entirely true. There are lots of cases out west and up north with pics of illegal kills. Also, earlier there was a pic of a big deer killed by a youth. LEO investigated and ended up that the deer was poached off private property

Re: Proof requirements for hunting over bait [Re: War87Eagle] #2740214
02/17/19 09:30 AM
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A picture triggering an investigation is one thing, writing a ticket based only on a picture is bull chit. One of the other guys mentioned why not ticket the guy for hunting at night and without permission too?

Re: Proof requirements for hunting over bait [Re: War87Eagle] #2740216
02/17/19 09:36 AM
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How many pictures have been posted of children and the deer they’ve killed and the kids not have hunter orange on? Ticket or use common sense? Where does it stop?

I was being facetious. Hence the common sence and where does it stop question.

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Re: Proof requirements for hunting over bait [Re: War87Eagle] #2740219
02/17/19 09:41 AM
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I agree. If this is being told honestly, then it should be no problem to overturn in court and the officer should at the bare minimum suffer consequences, if not lose his position, but right now, all we are hearing is one side of the story

Re: Proof requirements for hunting over bait [Re: War87Eagle] #2740228
02/17/19 09:52 AM
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I'd fight it. With that being said I, wouldn't have posted any of those pics on Facebook, wouldn't have met with officer or spoke to him, he can schedule a meeting with me and my lawyer or he can take me to jail. Either way, I have nothing to say to them. I'm kinda funny like that though.


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Re: Proof requirements for hunting over bait [Re: War87Eagle] #2740230
02/17/19 09:53 AM
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Re: Proof requirements for hunting over bait [Re: War87Eagle] #2740232
02/17/19 09:57 AM
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1. never post any pics of deer you kill anywhere
2. never talk to the popo ever
3.-10. see #1 and #2.


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Re: Proof requirements for hunting over bait [Re: RCHRR] #2740233
02/17/19 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by RCHRR
How many pictures have been posted of children and the deer they’ve killed and the kids not have hunter orange on? Ticket or use common sense? Where does it stop?


Now that one is just to easy. Many take a hat off when having a picture made, Alabama only requires an orange hat, you are not required to have orange on when not hunting, the hunt is over, maybe they just removed the hat so Mama could better see the child's eyes.

Re: Proof requirements for hunting over bait [Re: War87Eagle] #2740234
02/17/19 09:58 AM
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How many game violations have you received in the past ? What about any of ur buddies you hunt with? I’ve read ur story and hope all turns out well. Just have a feeling something is missing.

And yes hire Troy now. And video Troys response.

Re: Proof requirements for hunting over bait [Re: ronfromramer] #2740241
02/17/19 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by ronfromramer
That is some Gestapo bullchit right there. No way they can prove that without a reasonable doubt. Way too many assumptions on game wardens part

Kinda making assumptions yourself. Why is the warden automatically wrong. How do you know the op aint telling the story to make himself the injured party?. It would not be the first time someone has posted something less than the truth.

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