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Re: Proof requirements for hunting over bait [Re: duxlayer] #2740966
02/18/19 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by duxlayer
Just Keep diggin . A simple apology to everyone on here (for lying)and the GW would go a long way . Pay your ticket and keep your mouth shut . And if what you are saying is true I’d write you another ticket for dragging a live deer 150 yards .


whats that code number there duxlayer???? Dragging a live deer must be a felony since it was over 100 yards....


I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....

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muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
Re: Proof requirements for hunting over bait [Re: War87Eagle] #2740971
02/18/19 09:43 AM
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But was it deer corn???


Quietly killing turkeys where youre not!!!
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Re: Proof requirements for hunting over bait [Re: 257wbymag] #2740976
02/18/19 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by 257wbymag
But was it deer corn???
. rofl

Look like golden acorns from a Golden Oak tree to me. Nothing to see here folks


We’re not dead. We just smell that way. Dayum. - AC870

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Re: Proof requirements for hunting over bait [Re: BhamFred] #2740979
02/18/19 09:52 AM
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Guess your right paw paw , not against the law. Just poor ethics in my opinion .

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Re: Proof requirements for hunting over bait [Re: War87Eagle] #2740985
02/18/19 10:03 AM
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I agree on that.


I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....

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muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
Re: Proof requirements for hunting over bait [Re: War87Eagle] #2740991
02/18/19 10:09 AM
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He may need to appoint Timber2. loco I have a feeling GW sitting back with intel like a cocked .357 .
That pic deer clearly looks alive. I highly doubt someone is purposely going to drag a live deer.
“Hold on Little Bucky. Let me move you over here and pull down the apple corn backdrop for the next photo .”

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Re: Proof requirements for hunting over bait [Re: War87Eagle] #2740996
02/18/19 10:21 AM
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I'm in the "he shot it with it's head down in the corn pile" group on this one and it seems pretty obvious, as I will agree with Hogwild, that the first pic is of a deer that is still alive at the time it was taken through the scope. Hunting and shooting over corn is just the normal course of business by the local redneck crew out in the Wilmer, Semmes and Chunchula areas. It's just how the majority of them hunt. My FIL owns land in Semmes and ever since he bought that parcel, we are constantly finding stands that dont belong on his obviously posted, private property, with corn 20-30 yds away. We take the stands and then a year or two later, more show up. That deer is not a big deer by any means or standard for Mobile county. Mobile county doesnt produce huge bucks but there are a bunch running around way bigger than that one. It's a "dink" anywhere in the state.

All this said, I am 100% in agreement with Troy, there is something called "reasonable doubt" and another called "presumption of innocence". I think that with an honest and thoughtful judge, even though it was most likely shot while standing in the corn pile, unless the original poster admitted that he shot the deer and personally took the picture, then the GW will be very hard pressed to get a conviction with just the evidence presented, but who knows what else what the GW might have found or in his possession. If all he has is this picture, with no admission of guilt from the OP, I think it gets tossed.

Re: Proof requirements for hunting over bait [Re: War87Eagle] #2740999
02/18/19 10:29 AM
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Another curious thought: why would someone drag a deer INTO the corn pile. I understand road access (or whatever) being to the area, but into the corn itself? That makes no sense.

The question of "was it killed over corn" isn't really even a question. Clearly it was. The question now is "can it be proven?" If you stay quiet and don't talk yourself into a hole, you may get away with this one. I will echo James on this, being familiar with this GW myself, you have now made yourself a new friend. Expect to see him often. I have always found him to be respectable and courteous, but he's no dummy.


"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." - Thomas Jefferson
Re: Proof requirements for hunting over bait [Re: War87Eagle] #2741000
02/18/19 10:32 AM
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aside from everything else..the scope is impressive!


It's a sanctuary.
Re: Proof requirements for hunting over bait [Re: War87Eagle] #2741005
02/18/19 10:44 AM
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I'd order some fake corn off the internet (have a friend do it). Take it to court and throw it on the bench and tell him that's what's in the picture. One bad gesture always deserves another.


not sure what the best way to handle them is but they shouldnt be on tv and gettn married and raisin kids

Re: Proof requirements for hunting over bait [Re: War87Eagle] #2741010
02/18/19 10:45 AM
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I do agree that it should be thrown out. It will be interesting to hear the outcome and how the outcome was determined either way. People get themselves in more messes than they can think of because of facebook. "I just have to put every move I make on facebook". I don't get it.

To the OP, I hope you get a break on this one. I do think you have a shot if you go fight the ticket. I hope you learned a little through tis ordeal.

If you happen to see a house on fire by chance, dont go stand close to it with an empty gas can and let people take pics of you. You prob didn't set it on fire but it sure don't look too good. Just saying.

Re: Proof requirements for hunting over bait [Re: duxlayer] #2741012
02/18/19 10:47 AM
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Sorry op but the bristled hair on neck , mouth gaping and whites of his eyes showing is a pretty open and shut case that the deer is lying exactly where it was shot. Pay the ticket and learn a lesson . If you wanna hunt over corn, do it. Probably won’t get caught again til your 45 . beers
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The picture may be from where he DIED, but not necessarily where he was SHOT. Every deer you shoot may drop in his tracks, but of the 6 I have shoulder or euro mounted only 2 died right at the initial shot location. Where the deer was when he was shot is what matters. If I shoot him in a legal location and he runs to the nearest convenience store and dies on a pallet of corn surrounded by rice bran. dope, and illegal cigarettes the location he expired at has nothing to do with the legality of where I shot him.

Re: Proof requirements for hunting over bait [Re: War87Eagle] #2741017
02/18/19 10:54 AM
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Haha I want superspike, thanks.
Huntbig, I love the scope, its awesome for youth. You can re watch the video and check shot placement and which way it ran, how it ran......
Some uninformed people call it illegal because of its night mode, but its night mode is no different than any glass scope aa it also needs the aid of a light.

Re: Proof requirements for hunting over bait [Re: War87Eagle] #2741059
02/18/19 11:42 AM
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In honor of "Presidents Day"

Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt.


— ABRAHAM LINCOLN.

Re: Proof requirements for hunting over bait [Re: War87Eagle] #2741065
02/18/19 11:47 AM
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Remember that saying "You have the Right to remain Silent"! Just shut up about it and take it to court if that is what you want to do! Remember, a picture is worth a thousand words! If you win good for you and if you lose call it a lesson learned!


"America First! Nothing Else Matters"
Re: Proof requirements for hunting over bait [Re: War87Eagle] #2741072
02/18/19 11:49 AM
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You’ve already lied about one statement in this thread for sure. I looked at your FB page last night and the scope pic of the deer was there. As of 1 minute ago when I looked, it’s gone. You deleted the pic.
I don’t care if you killed the deer over corn or not but if you were dumb enough to kill it over bait and then post it on social media then you deserve everything that’s coming to you. I would also bet that the GW has more of a case against you than just the pics



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Re: Proof requirements for hunting over bait [Re: Southwood7] #2741085
02/18/19 12:11 PM
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It's still there. I just looked at it to double check. We are not friends on fb so you cant see it.

Re: Proof requirements for hunting over bait [Re: War87Eagle] #2741101
02/18/19 12:29 PM
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God I wish he would of laid on that buck and took a selfie with atn scope.


"A moment of realization is worth a thousand prayers"
Re: Proof requirements for hunting over bait [Re: War87Eagle] #2741103
02/18/19 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by War87Eagle
It's still there. I just looked at it to double check. We are not friends on fb so you cant see it.



I’m not going to jump on you either way, but I looked earlier and can see all kinds pics on there, except the night scope pic. So, the “we aren’t friends” argument doesn’t hold water, or else none of the pics would be visible. I’d at least make the settings where none of the pics were visible. Good luck to you, however this plays out.


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Re: Proof requirements for hunting over bait [Re: Dallas County] #2741111
02/18/19 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Dallas County
I'd order some fake corn off the internet (have a friend do it). Take it to court and throw it on the bench and tell him that's what's in the picture. One bad gesture always deserves another.


He should have it so when he opens his briefcase, it's slap full of corn.


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