Was the poster child of adhd as well. Parents kept me in sports and outside to help keep my restlessness at bay. Couldn’t sit still to save my life all the way thru college. After I graduated my energy level tanked. I have a physically demanding job and it 100% affected me and my business. I have been to 2 different doctors and had every blood panel ran that they had access to. There is nothing medically wrong with me. Not a thing. Both told me I was just chronically fatigued. When I say I did the bare minimum to get by for the last 3-4 years, that’s all I did. Several friends have the attention span of a gnat all go to the same dr at a place in Hoover called focus Md. I’ll be 100% honest, I didn’t care if he was a dr or janitor, just give me something to keep me awake ( like focalin ) or one of the newer add meds like vyvanse or mydayis (sp??). Made an appointment and met the dr. Went they several tests and talked to him for a hour. He initially put me on adderall by my insurance wouldn’t pay for anything until you tried/ failed on adderall. I couldn’t get anything done Bc I had to fix the 37 other things I noticed while doing task 1. And when that chit wore off about 3-4 o’clock u feel like a microwaved turd and was extremely irritable for an hour or 2 then it went away. Then I went in vyvanse. Still a adhd medicine but affected me 100% differently. Besides the energy (which was little to none on adderall) it motivates you. Makes you want to “accomplish “ things. Makes me very job or list oriented. 100% changed my life. As Crocker said, the Hunter/gatherer gene is typically the adhd group. They run on adrenaline. My “youth” overpowered the lack of rem sleep tiredness until I got to 21-22 ish. After that I could make it to 11-12 ish and then I crawled the rest of the day. Zero energy. Talking with a guy last night that had vyvanse affect him like adderall did me. I wouldn’t want my kid on adderall if it did to him what it did to me. I would 100% give him vyvanse if it did to him what it did to me. If I had been on this during the first 13 years of my business, I’d be in a much different place. Not a advocate of putting a kid/adult on a pill just to fix typical add/adhd symptoms, but there is a time and place when it starts severely affecting their life.

I was a team guy and no... we never done this. Being from the 160th you would know as well as anybody.

I’ve considered that too

Not that vegetable oil they sell in Alabama. The real stuff with THC might help.
The only legal CBD oil, available here in hell, is just vegetable / mineral oil.

Here we go again

The cure used to be “lifesavers” for fidgety kids

ADHD... Adult Deficient Hyperactivity Disorder... But, here is the kicker the Hyperactivity presents in 2 ways. Being hyperactive with the inability to stay still, OR being verbally hyperactive. For those who know me Dear God I cant shut up.

For those who don't have ADHD you dont understand that folks with ADHD have a free flowing nonlinear way of seeing and perceiving the world. For us everything is connected. Even if we dont understand why something inside us innately processes and we get the connection to things the normal (per standard deviation) population cant see. This is why people think we are nuts as we jump from one subject or activity to another but for us to be honest we suffer normal dumbassery of "normal population" people who just cant keep up. We get exhausted trying to explain things to people. The negative conseqence of this is we have a tendency for outburst and we say things maybe we shouldnt in social situations. OF COURSE OUTBACK HAS ADHD. He can't stand to read long post and he says things most folks wont...

So back to the simple obvious. If ADHD is a remnant genetic trait that is left over to be highly adapted in a hunter gatherer society then Which Ethnic Group would you think would statisically have the highest prevalence of ADHD in USA. The answer is NATIVE AMERICAN at approximately 35%. They obviously are the ethnic group still most closely related genetically in USA to Hunter Gatherers. Native American at 35 % and Nornal pop at 5%. Jesus thats 7X more likely and an incredibly a statisical impossibility without the native and hunter gatherer association. Folks with ADHD immediately got that association I was asserting earlier. Normal pop I hope now get it.
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I’ve seen some of the most benign stuff and so called “snake oils” actually produce startling results or side effects so you never know until you try it.

Tylenol actually reduces emotions and when coupled with a mix of other substances will make you stone cold. Metamucil can absorb toxic adrenaline and help with hunger

That’s bad ass you’re a direct descendant of Davy Crockett. I’ll look into the Hartman Hunter Model.

I never questioned your service just the Hollywood stories you posted.

That’s kind of what I was thinking. We carried a lot of “customers” into bad places and the last thing they wanted was to be cloudy for any reason whatsoever.

Not cloudy, focused enough for the mission and teaming with massive amounts of antibodies so you don’t get sick until the end or after the mission.

Sorry you don’t see this in Hollywood scripts.

By the way, any of you ever watch “American Made”? There is a scene in there where the contras are standing behind the pilot saying “donde esta el bano?” I can tell you how I fixed that problem with a sawz-all, a $2,000 toilet seat, and a couple of bolts.

You guys ain’t lived much in your boxes man.

You are correct on acetaminophen...

Ding, ding, ding!!! We have a winner. Look what you JUST admitted to. You claim, after being around dozens of folks that claim to have it, it’s mostly just a matter of upbringing, yet the ONE person you think truly has it was a person you lived with. Being AROUND someone is a whole lot different than LIVING with someone. Again, I USED to say it was upbringing too, until I lived with kids that have been diagnosed. I have three kids. All boys. Oldest has zero problems. The other two are twins. One is mildly ADD. The third is off the charts. All three raised under the same roof with the same rules and same discipline. So, as mentioned above, if you, or your kids are NOT suffering with this, then no, your opinion is NOT worth as much because your experience is extremely limited. I’m willing to bet that just because your roommate had it, you didn’t spend countless hours researching it trying everything you could to help him without medication.

This problem didnt exist 30 years ago. Just saying.

This"illness" being discovered has turned out to be a gold mine for pharma companies.

Its all about the money, control, self gratification, or attention...EVERYTHING!