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Re: Throw n Mow Q&A
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#2838610
06/26/19 07:45 PM
06/26/19 07:45 PM
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Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 14,948 Clanton
Turkey_neck
Booner
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Booner
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Clanton
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You’re gonna have that unfortunately. I just dealt with it and rolled on. You will need that thatch for fall anyway.
Would walk over a naked woman to get to a gobblin turkey!
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Re: Throw n Mow Q&A
[Re: crenshawco]
#2838950
06/27/19 08:39 AM
06/27/19 08:39 AM
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Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 584 Eva, AL
hitek
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Eva, AL
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What kind of grass is that in 270wsm's pic? I'm dealing with that on one of my plots Looks like Johnson grass to me. Will be 3' tall in 3 weeks.
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Re: Throw n Mow Q&A
[Re: CNC]
#2839322
06/27/19 05:24 PM
06/27/19 05:24 PM
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Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 6,867 Fairhope, AL
270wsm
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14 point
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Posts: 6,867
Fairhope, AL
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blumsden- Thanks I'll keep that in mind in the future. In this case I couldn't have avoided the grass competition as the plot had just dried up enough to get equipment on it to spray due to all the rain and flooding we had this year. Then I was forced to plant the day I did due to the rainmaker that hit us June 5th.
hitek- I think it's johnson grass too, but we'll find out next time I'm at camp
Last edited by 270wsm; 06/27/19 05:24 PM.
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Re: Throw n Mow Q&A
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#2840023
06/28/19 05:41 PM
06/28/19 05:41 PM
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Joined: Sep 2017
Posts: 316 Shelby County
SouthernRoots
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tough day at the lease.... went out to spray a few pea and lab lab plots only to find that the timber company has been using them as turnarounds for there log trucks... Only 2 of our 6 summer plots were spared. All the others were bare dirt except for small patches in the middle. Those patches and the 2 that weren't driven in looked really good though.
planted on may 28th and they we're probably torn up shortly thereafter. Loggers should be totally off the property around the first of August. Would it even be worth replanting in peas and such at that point?
Throw and mow is no longer an option on these fields due to the fact that they're totally bare dirt from all the traffic on them.
IG - @_teamsouternroots_ Legacy: Planting the seeds and knowing you will never see the fruits.
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Re: Throw n Mow Q&A
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#2840214
06/28/19 09:52 PM
06/28/19 09:52 PM
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Turkey_neck
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Booner
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That’s always nice to see.
Would walk over a naked woman to get to a gobblin turkey!
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Re: Throw n Mow Q&A
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#2854849
07/18/19 05:21 PM
07/18/19 05:21 PM
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Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 656 SW Alabama
ALFisher
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Unfortunately, I'm having to report my first T&M failure in this three-year experiment. This is the first summer my WMS pea patch failed. I'm not sure, but I think it's a combo of a few things: (1) less rye planted this year, as rye was really expensive, and I was trying to get more foods the deer would eat, (2) waited until end of may/first week of June to plant, and I think some other grasses started to take over the fields, and (3) rain, or lack thereof during the month of June, as it was fairly dry.
I honestly thought we got just enough rain, so I am leaning on 1 and 2, as when I cut, there wasn't a lot of standing rye/wheat/oats left. Very little. Then, grasses didn't quite all die out from cutting, and may have outcompeted the other seeds. The buckwheat came up well, though. I also had lots and lots of turkeys in all three patches I've been trying this in.
It seems to me that if you are T&M into a heavy planting of rye, you have plenty of biomass and your weeds are just not there as the rye does a good job of keeping them out. The downside is that I swear that deer don't like it as much as they do wheat and oats. I'll either (1) go back to planting rye, (2) get a sprayer to spray before I T&M, or (3) go back to the old fashioned way now that i have pretty decent soil layer going. Let me know if you have any thoughts.
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Re: Throw n Mow Q&A
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07/19/19 06:09 AM
07/19/19 06:09 AM
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Posts: 5,709 Lincoln, Alabama
blumsden
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Lincoln, Alabama
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You either need a good layer of thatch to cover the seed, or a lot of rain. The layer of thatch will hold the moisture to the seed, allowing it to sprout. If you don't have thatch, well then you need a lot of rain. I have cowpea's waist high right now. At the time of planting, my thatch was lacking, but they were calling for 4 days of rain, and we got it. I plant based on the weather, and if your going to do T&M, you need to as well. When disking, you plant whenever and just wait on rain. I always plant before a significant rain event. It's definitely harder to T&M in the spring and summer than the fall. Seeds are larger, but once you get that good layer built up, its easier The turkeys you speak of probably eat up your peas, if they were not covered.
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Re: Throw n Mow Q&A
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#2855724
07/19/19 08:47 PM
07/19/19 08:47 PM
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257wbymag
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Boo Boo Head
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Lack of rain will be T&M or regular tills Achilles heel. No rain=not good
Quietly killing turkeys where youre not!!! My tank full of give a fraks been runnin on empty I'm the paterfamilias
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