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Re: There goes the live bait fishing [Re: buzzard] #2852485
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and for you guys using black salties..you think their native to the waters? They are goldfish!

Also last time I got black salties..there were 2 BLUE Back herring in the live well. They had them in with the salties. I didnt use them and threw them out as they are illegal on Smith I had heard.

So youll see Black salties will be outlawed soon as well...probably next year. Let me know how that works out for yall.

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Try winter fishing for stripes without shad or redhorse suckers......make sure you post the pics..Ill be waiting..and once again not holding my breath. You people that just dont mind laws taking away our rights are as bad as freaking democrats IMO.

Its one step at a time...dam wake the heck up.
This is the worst F & G leadership Ive ever seen. Bunch of dam idots

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Re: There goes the live bait fishing [Re: buzzard] #2852490
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Striped bass have been in Smith for 35-40 years if not longer. Bass fishing is far better now than 30 years ago, for sure. Thirty years ago if someone told me I had to go bass fishing at Smith or go have a colonoscopy, I'd have asked for a tube of KY and gone to the doctor's office. It wasn't known as the Dead Sea for nothing.


As for eating Asian carp, the restaurant at Kentucky Dam Village has them on the menu on Friday nights and they often run out. I've been told some other restaurants in western Kentucky also were serving them. They renamed them something like "Kentucky whitefish" to keep the "Ewwww, gross and stinky!" folks from not trying them.


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Re: There goes the live bait fishing [Re: ] #2852491
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Originally Posted by outdoorobsession
Try winter fishing for stripes without shad or redhorse suckers......make sure you post the pics..Ill be waiting..and once again not holding my breath.


Winter stripers ... livewells would be about as empty as AOC's brain. laugh


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Re: There goes the live bait fishing [Re: Clem] #2852495
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Originally Posted by Clem

Striped bass have been in Smith for 35-40 years if not longer. Bass fishing is far better now than 30 years ago, for sure. Thirty years ago if someone told me I had to go bass fishing at Smith or go have a colonoscopy, I'd have asked for a tube of KY and gone to the doctor's office. It wasn't known as the Dead Sea for nothing.


As for eating Asian carp, the restaurant at Kentucky Dam Village has them on the menu on Friday nights and they often run out. I've been told some other restaurants in western Kentucky also were serving them. They renamed them something like "Kentucky whitefish" to keep the "Ewwww, gross and stinky!" folks from not trying them.


really Clem? I have people complaining all the time they cant catch crap here for bass. Blaming on the stripers eating the bass. EVERY TIME I FISH. They tell us to kill em all.

I dont know though..Im only here 4 dam days a week. It maybe better but if you think bass guys prefer it youre mistaken.

They all tell me they like the murkier water better. and they should . Its clear as heck here.

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Re: There goes the live bait fishing [Re: Clem] #2852500
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Originally Posted by Clem
Originally Posted by outdoorobsession
Try winter fishing for stripes without shad or redhorse suckers......make sure you post the pics..Ill be waiting..and once again not holding my breath.


Winter stripers ... livewells would be about as empty as AOC's brain. laugh


And how do YOU propose we catch those 30 to 40 pounders we catch is skinny shallow water in winter and spring? We wont catch any as there is no way other then planer boards with shad and red horse suckers.

NONE that I know of..but Ill google it. People who willingly give up freedoms to either STATE or FEDERAL govts are freaking IDIOTS IMO. Every law is passed to make things better..for the best of the whole. Tell me how thats working out for you OK?

Sheeple....and that is truly what I think of them. Yall give up youre freedoms one inch at a time. Im almost 60..wont affect me soon..but Ill be laughing from my grave at yall who just rolled over and let it happen when the libs wont let you fish or hunt, and you cant have guns except bolt action rifles and 6 shooters. Yall get the crop you sowed. Enjoy the eating.

1 INCH at a time. Youd think youd all understand by now. loco slap

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Re: There goes the live bait fishing [Re: buzzard] #2852503
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I'm sure they do an number on whatever they get their mouths around. Bass, crappie, forage, whatever.

Speaking of killing them, if you want to do it the "most humane way" for eating this is interesting:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TS4AM9mPX-8


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Re: There goes the live bait fishing [Re: ] #2852505
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Originally Posted by outdoorobsession
Originally Posted by Clem
Originally Posted by outdoorobsession
Try winter fishing for stripes without shad or redhorse suckers......make sure you post the pics..Ill be waiting..and once again not holding my breath.


Winter stripers ... livewells would be about as empty as AOC's brain. laugh


And how do YOU propose we catch those 30 to 40 pounders we catch is skinny shallow water in winter and spring? We wont catch any as there is no way other then planer boards with shad and red horse suckers.

NONE that I know of..but Ill google it. People who willingly give up freedoms to either STATE or FEDERAL govts are freaking IDIOTS IMO. Every law is passed to make things better..for the best of the whole. Tell me how thats working out for you OK?

Sheeple....and that is truly what I think of them. Yall give up youre freedoms one inch at a time. Im almost 60..wont affect me soon..but Ill be laughing from my grave at yall who just rolled over and let it happen when the libs wont let you fish or hunt, and you cant have guns except bolt action rifles and 6 shooters. Yall get the crop you sowed. Enjoy the eating.

1 INCH at a time. Youd think youd all understand by now. loco


I was agreeing with you about needing shad or suckers in winter, or you'd have empty livewells. Have an Old Milwaukee, goober. laugh


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Re: There goes the live bait fishing [Re: buzzard] #2852506
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They truly eat everything in sight. Only predators for them..is us striper guys.

Only fish we can catch here for bait are crappie and they wont let us. $50 fine per fish.

So someone please tell me what our option is in this clusterphuck of state governmental over reach.

When CWD comes and they go and the states teams come and shoot all your deer..dont come crying..it is all for the best..remember? thumbup slap rofl

Oh wait..that affects you ALL, so its BAD! I forgot. Freaking insanity these days.

It ONLY GOOD if it DOESNT affect you. Because thats not selfish, narrow minded or idiotic right? Wake the hell up.

The hypocrisy here is more then I can bear.


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Re: There goes the live bait fishing [Re: buzzard] #2852509
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The question above about catching fish for bait below a dam and using them in the lake above the dam -- same river, water moving through the dam -- is a good one.


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Re: There goes the live bait fishing [Re: Clem] #2852515
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Originally Posted by Clem
Originally Posted by outdoorobsession
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Originally Posted by outdoorobsession
Try winter fishing for stripes without shad or redhorse suckers......make sure you post the pics..Ill be waiting..and once again not holding my breath.


Winter stripers ... livewells would be about as empty as AOC's brain. laugh


And how do YOU propose we catch those 30 to 40 pounders we catch is skinny shallow water in winter and spring? We wont catch any as there is no way other then planer boards with shad and red horse suckers.

NONE that I know of..but Ill google it. People who willingly give up freedoms to either STATE or FEDERAL govts are freaking IDIOTS IMO. Every law is passed to make things better..for the best of the whole. Tell me how thats working out for you OK?

Sheeple....and that is truly what I think of them. Yall give up youre freedoms one inch at a time. Im almost 60..wont affect me soon..but Ill be laughing from my grave at yall who just rolled over and let it happen when the libs wont let you fish or hunt, and you cant have guns except bolt action rifles and 6 shooters. Yall get the crop you sowed. Enjoy the eating.

1 INCH at a time. Youd think youd all understand by now. loco


I was agreeing with you about needing shad or suckers in winter, or you'd have empty livewells. Have an Old Milwaukee, goober. laugh





Im just pissed because I fish that way and I HATE govt over reach. We had a revolution about a freaking Tax on tea. Heck..Im two sheets into the wind already..I had 4 shots of whiskey just reading this It got me so mad goober. My wife kept asking..youre not having another one..? Bottoms up dammit. UH OH..... laugh

Yall know I still like ya Clem. But I hate big Govt at any level. Im a small govt, free market, free every thing american. Who cherishs my rights. I hate given up any at anytime..cause I know more rules, regs and over reach are coming.

Chuck Sykes needs to find a new job. Ive always stuck up for him but theyre off theyre rockers now. How do we get his arse out of office. I say we all try to get it done.

I will truly work as hard as I can to help anyone with a plan to get his arse out of there. Hes moronic now.

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Re: There goes the live bait fishing [Re: Clem] #2852521
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Originally Posted by Clem

The question above about catching fish for bait below a dam and using them in the lake above the dam -- same river, water moving through the dam -- is a good one.




It said "one body of water to another". Sounds like that would be the same body of water.

Beadlescomb asked how we catch shad at Smith..he heard we cant..he was right. We travel to catch em. But I have never seen one asian shad after seeing TENS OF THOUSANDS of shad caught. Not one and my buddy runs 12 big livewells that we fill with shad .

I bought a dozen black salties and had 2 blue backed herring. So please tell me where the problem lies.

Im just a common sense realist. I know what I SEE and base my opinions on FIRSTHAND knowledge. Ten thousand shad..no asian carp...12 black salties..2 blue back herrings which are already illegal on Smith. Pretty freaking easy to see..Ray Charles could figure it out. slap

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I assume this is to stop the spread of blueback herring by fishermen.

Re: There goes the live bait fishing [Re: buzzard] #2852605
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Now let’s see how the bass guys feel about stripers now that none will be caught at smith or Martin. Let’s see if the bass have something to eat now. Phuck the dcnr and the horse they rode in on.


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Re: There goes the live bait fishing [Re: Be_Cam] #2852610
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Originally Posted by Be_Cam
I make bream baskets for the creeks and use the baits, “creek bream, horny heads, spot tails, crawfish etc” for bait. May have to haul em 20 miles at a time, but I’ll take my chances I guess. Can’t catch that bait in the lake, or I can’t anyway.

On a side note, I know a guy that asked the GW what was the difference in using a crappie for bait instead of a bream, GW said $50!! Lol



When I was a kid I would spend Saturday morning catching bream, suckers, or whatever I could out of the creek and my grandfather and I would use them to set out catfish lines in the river that afternoon. Such innocent activities will now be illegal. I've done something similar as an adult for striper fishing and never hurt a thing in the world.

If Asian carp are the problem, why not simply make it illegal to transport Asian carp? I've never seen a govt agency take so many adversarial positions against the people as this one.


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I say we figure out where Chucky lives and every striper fisherman in the state blacks out his bait tank with shad and goes and dumps them on his front lawn in a parade of striper boats and let him sort through them and see if there were any invasives in there.


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Originally Posted by outdoorobsession
Originally Posted by Clem

The question above about catching fish for bait below a dam and using them in the lake above the dam -- same river, water moving through the dam -- is a good one.




It said "one body of water to another". Sounds like that would be the same body of water. slap


The article says " As a result, a new
regulation has been adopted by the Alabama Division of Wildlife and Freshwater
Fisheries (WFF) to restrict the transport
of live wild-caught bait fish between the
public freshwater lakes, rivers, reservoirs
and drainage basins within Alabama."

Are the dammed rivers (Coosa, Tennessee, etc) creating reservoirs or freshwater lakes? If so, catching shad below the dam and transporting them to above the dam would not be legal from how I read it. Just another Chucky screw up.

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I think a live bait transport privilege license is called for here.

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Originally Posted by outdoorobsession
They truly eat everything in sight.

If that’s the case why do you have to have shad or suckers to catch them?

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Originally Posted by jlbuc10
Originally Posted by outdoorobsession
They truly eat everything in sight.

If that’s the case why do you have to have shad or suckers to catch them?
Because you're not permitted to use bass or crappie?


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