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Re: Fredrick's Outdoors and Their Yanmar Tractors? [Re: Irishguy] #2890010
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Them suckers will crank in gear! I went & looked at one in Hartselle, it was parked in the mans front yard. He turned the ignition over while standing beside the tractor, if it had cranked it would’ve went right through his house! Dangerous


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Originally Posted by robinhedd
Them suckers will crank in gear! I went & looked at one in Hartselle, it was parked in the mans front yard. He turned the ignition over while standing beside the tractor, if it had cranked it would’ve went right through his house! Dangerous


ONLY if the clutch safety and/or neutral safety switch is faulty or has been bypassed.

Originally Posted by brushwhacker
Best thing bout it was It had a 4 speed pto . Most tractors have one speed.


Yep and the decal on the fender shows what speeds the different positions give. When I first got mine I had my bush hog running so fast it should have lifted off like a helicopter.


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Originally Posted by Wiley Coyote
Originally Posted by robinhedd
Them suckers will crank in gear! I went & looked at one in Hartselle, it was parked in the mans front yard. He turned the ignition over while standing beside the tractor, if it had cranked it would’ve went right through his house! Dangerous


ONLY if the clutch safety and/or neutral safety switch is faulty or has been bypassed.

Originally Posted by brushwhacker
Best thing bout it was It had a 4 speed pto . Most tractors have one speed.


Yep and the decal on the fender shows what speeds the different positions give. When I first got mine I had my bush hog running so fast it should have lifted off like a helicopter.
Yep! I was throwin a rooster tail with a 4’ tiller.


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Re: Fredrick's Outdoors and Their Yanmar Tractors? [Re: Jehu] #2890354
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Re: Fredrick's Outdoors and Their Yanmar Tractors? [Re: poorcountrypreacher] #2890357
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Originally Posted by poorcountrypreacher


You must have me on ignore. What did I do?

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Re: Fredrick's Outdoors and Their Yanmar Tractors? [Re: Frankie] #2890359
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Any bad thing I know bad about biying from him is the paint they use fades pretty fast . Other than that , all good stuff .


It's a single stage paint so it will polish out like a shiny new dime if one were so inclined.

Re: Fredrick's Outdoors and Their Yanmar Tractors? [Re: Wiley Coyote] #2890361
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Originally Posted by Wiley Coyote
Originally Posted by robinhedd
Them suckers will crank in gear! I went & looked at one in Hartselle, it was parked in the mans front yard. He turned the ignition over while standing beside the tractor, if it had cranked it would’ve went right through his house! Dangerous


ONLY if the clutch safety and/or neutral safety switch is faulty or has been bypassed.

Originally Posted by brushwhacker
Best thing bout it was It had a 4 speed pto . Most tractors have one speed.


Yep and the decal on the fender shows what speeds the different positions give. When I first got mine I had my bush hog running so fast it should have lifted off like a helicopter.


Yes, only when someone disabled the switch. And yes, that's dangerous.

The guy at Fredricks told me that the reason for PTO speeds is the Japanese (Lots of them used them in rice farming) used the PTOs to run stuff like water pumps, so that was the reason for the multiple speeds. The Japanese grey market imports all have multiple speeds, but the US market tractors all just have one speed, 540.

Re: Fredrick's Outdoors and Their Yanmar Tractors? [Re: Irishguy] #2890366
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Judging by the size of Fredricks Lake Compound on Smith, there’s a WHOLE LOT of margins in everything h3 sells.

Re: Fredrick's Outdoors and Their Yanmar Tractors? [Re: Irishguy] #2890370
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Re: Fredrick's Outdoors and Their Yanmar Tractors? [Re: 257wbymag] #2890380
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Originally Posted by 257wbymag
He’s all about himself that’s for sure. Can’t stand him


Well... I'm not buying a tractor from him, so can we still be friends? grin

Re: Fredrick's Outdoors and Their Yanmar Tractors? [Re: Irishguy] #2890382
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We ran a JD with a Yanmar engine for years with very little trouble.

Re: Fredrick's Outdoors and Their Yanmar Tractors? [Re: joshm28] #2890384
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Originally Posted by joshm28
Judging by the size of Fredricks Lake Compound on Smith, there’s a WHOLE LOT of margins in everything h3 sells.



His prices on the Mahindras were the same as other tractor dealers I've talked with.

Honestly, I think the margins on ALL tractors are very high. When you compare their prices to new cars, which are way more complicated and have to meet all kinds of safety and emissions standards and all the extra pieces, interiors, glass, etc... Tractors seem oddly expensive to me compared to cars. I guess since tractors are used (in most cases) to earn money that's where the dealers figure they got folks over a barrel. It's also probably the reason that used tractors hold their resale value so much, because a new one is so expensive.

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Originally Posted by joshm28
Judging by the size of Fredricks Lake Compound on Smith, there’s a WHOLE LOT of margins in everything h3 sells.


He was an aerospace engineer at NASA but quit that job to import tractors and his business exploded from there.


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Re: Fredrick's Outdoors and Their Yanmar Tractors? [Re: Irishguy] #2890479
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Originally Posted by Irishguy
Originally Posted by joshm28
Judging by the size of Fredricks Lake Compound on Smith, there’s a WHOLE LOT of margins in everything h3 sells.



His prices on the Mahindras were the same as other tractor dealers I've talked with.

Honestly, I think the margins on ALL tractors are very high. When you compare their prices to new cars, which are way more complicated and have to meet all kinds of safety and emissions standards and all the extra pieces, interiors, glass, etc... Tractors seem oddly expensive to me compared to cars. I guess since tractors are used (in most cases) to earn money that's where the dealers figure they got folks over a barrel. It's also probably the reason that used tractors hold their resale value so much, because a new one is so expensive.


I don’t think your cost comparison to cars vs tractors is realistic. There is a lot more steel in a tractor, the axels, transmissions, tires, cooling systems, and just about everything else is way heavier duty, aka more expensive to produce (think how much steel It takes to build a transmission/axel housing). Plus they have separate hydraulic syatems that are far more complex/heavy duty than what is found in the automotive world. Tractors are subject to safety emissions standards also.

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Originally Posted by Fuzzy_Bunny
Originally Posted by Irishguy
Originally Posted by joshm28
Judging by the size of Fredricks Lake Compound on Smith, there’s a WHOLE LOT of margins in everything h3 sells.



His prices on the Mahindras were the same as other tractor dealers I've talked with.

Honestly, I think the margins on ALL tractors are very high. When you compare their prices to new cars, which are way more complicated and have to meet all kinds of safety and emissions standards and all the extra pieces, interiors, glass, etc... Tractors seem oddly expensive to me compared to cars. I guess since tractors are used (in most cases) to earn money that's where the dealers figure they got folks over a barrel. It's also probably the reason that used tractors hold their resale value so much, because a new one is so expensive.


I don’t think your cost comparison to cars vs tractors is realistic. There is a lot more steel in a tractor, the axels, transmissions, tires, cooling systems, and just about everything else is way heavier duty, aka more expensive to produce (think how much steel It takes to build a transmission/axel housing). Plus they have separate hydraulic syatems that are far more complex/heavy duty than what is found in the automotive world. Tractors are subject to safety emissions standards also.


True, plus compare tractors to the price of diesel trucks, for a better comparison.


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Re: Fredrick's Outdoors and Their Yanmar Tractors? [Re: Irishguy] #2890530
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In the car comparison I was thinking more about complexity and labor vs materials. I know in my world labor is always more expensive than materials.

You guys are probabaly right, but I do think it would be interesting to see a comparison between the profit margin of automobiles vs tractors.

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Originally Posted by Irishguy
In the car comparison I was thinking more about complexity and labor vs materials. I know in my world labor is always more expensive than materials.

You guys are probabaly right, but I do think it would be interesting to see a comparison between the profit margin of automobiles vs tractors.


I'm sure the margin on tractors are more (especially large tractors), but also keep in mind that there are probably 50 cars produced for every 1 tractor....probably even more than that.

Similar to the comparison between Chevy and Mercedes.


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Originally Posted by Irishguy
Originally Posted by poorcountrypreacher


You must have me on ignore. What did I do?

wink



I don't have anyone on ignore.



I was just joking at you because I told you about the Fredrick's tractors at the beginning of your other thread. I think you are probably getting a good buy on the tractor you are getting. Mine is a 2210d, and I've had it 4 years now. I also have a 75 hp JD that is now 7 years old, and I think the Yanmar is more reliable because it is less complex. I like to work on things myself when I can, and I have a lot better chance of that with the Yanmar.

Join up over on the Yanmar forum of tractorbynet and there are several guys there who can tell you how to fix anything that comes along. Just remember that these are dinky tractors, and you have to consider that as you work them. But it's still a tractor, and not a lawnmower. I haven't found any job that my JD will do that the Yanmar won't do - it just takes more time with the smaller tractor. When you are only keeping up a few acres, the extra time is insignificant.

I haven't found any use for the higher PTO speeds. That was probably useful in a rice paddy, but not so much here. It is loud, but so is the JD. I use ear plugs when running either of them. And as someone said, it is possible to blow a head gasket. I think that is more an issue of small tractors than it is a Yanmar issue. Some folks get a 20 up tractor and hook it up to 5' equipment and run it just like it was a 50 hp. That's always a good way to break something.

Good luck with it.


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Thanks Preacher! grin

It looks like if everything is copacetic I'll pick it up Sunday.

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