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Re: Vaccine Bill [Re: Cactus_buck] #2900785
09/10/19 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Cactus_buck
Ask the people that have polio if they wish they had access to the vaccine. To not vaccinate your kids is plan idiotic.


Or those who have died from measles. Or mumps.

Don't fall for the anti-vaccination lunacy. Its hysteria driven by morons with zero data.


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Re: Vaccine Bill [Re: NSDQ160] #2900786
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Re: Vaccine Bill [Re: NSDQ160] #2900789
09/10/19 01:35 PM
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The entire anti-vax movement can be traced back to one doctor who has been proven to have faked his study and has been proven to be a liar.

There is a difference in childhood vaccines and the ones the military gives the soldiers.

The problem with saying if your kid is vaccinated, then it shouldn't matter what I do with my kid is, some children have legitimate medical reasons they can't get some vaccines and some children are too young to have certain vaccines.

Further, so deceases that were completely eradicated in the western world and thus vaccinations are not given any longer are seeing a come back because of un-vaccinated immigrants.

Re: Vaccine Bill [Re: Out back] #2900794
09/10/19 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Out back
Originally Posted by TexasNative
The anti-vaxxers are one strange group of people.

Or.... They are free thinkers who don't follow the sheep herd over the cliff.
If I remember correctly, you voted for Doug Jones. So nothing you say means a damn thing to anybody with a brain.


So did the majority of other voters. The 4chan users group is missing their village idiot. You need to check in.

Re: Vaccine Bill [Re: NSDQ160] #2900795
09/10/19 01:42 PM
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You guys will all be relieved to hear that I have no young kids any longer.
My kids are grown up and have their own children now.
But I've actually talked with several doctors and nurses who concur that vaccines can, and do, cause a number of serious health problems. There simply isn't enough data or research to be certain, as vaccine often has to be altered to address new strains of infection.


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Re: Vaccine Bill [Re: Out back] #2900801
09/10/19 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Out back
You guys will all be relieved to hear that I have no young kids any longer.
My kids are grown up and have their own children now.
But I've actually talked with several doctors and nurses who concur that vaccines can, and do, cause a number of serious health problems. There simply isn't enough data or research to be certain, as vaccine often has to be altered to address new strains of infection.



The lack of vaccination can cause serious health problems too if they’re exposed to said disease. Even death. That happening is much more likely than possibly getting sick from a vaccine.

Re: Vaccine Bill [Re: NSDQ160] #2900830
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Not this again. There isn't a grain of credible evidence that vaccines cause anything like autism. On the other hand we well know what can happen to kids that are not vaccinated. The graveyards that were around in your great grandparents time are full of little coffins.

The entire anti vaccine movement is basically composed of three major groups.

1) Anti government conspiracy nuts. You know the ones who sit in the corner of their house rocking back and forth; moaning and hitting the sides of their heads everytime they hear a helicopter because they think it's coming to haul them away to a secret government forced labor camp.

2) Ambulance chasing trial lawyers who would love to pin every childhood growth and developemnt problem on vaccines so they could sue the companies who make them.

3) Alternative medicine loons who want you to not vaccinate your kids and instead feed them a steady diet of natural remedies they are selling. Stuff made out of sea weed, bee pollen and pasteurized buffalo s#*t or some other such nonsense.

Don't want to vaccinate your kids? Fine, but don't send them to public school. And when they get sick don't bring them to us at the hospital to treat them then either. If you don't trust the medical field on vaccinations then why would you trust us to treat them when they have the measles, mumps or whooping cough. Be consistent at least.


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Re: Vaccine Bill [Re: NSDQ160] #2900834
09/10/19 02:53 PM
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I think there are a lot of more positives than negatives on vaccinations. The odds are they are going to help a lot more people than will hurt them.

Re: Vaccine Bill [Re: Todd1700] #2900852
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Originally Posted by Todd1700


3) Alternative medicine loons who want you to not vaccinate your kids and instead feed them a steady diet of natural remedies they are selling. Stuff made out of sea weed, bee pollen and pasteurized buffalo s#*t or some other such nonsense.

Don't want to vaccinate your kids? Fine, but don't send them to public school. And when they get sick don't bring them to us at the hospital to treat them then either. If you don't trust the medical field on vaccinations then why would you trust us to treat them when they have the measles, mumps or whooping cough. Be consistent at least.


I support this statement.

Want to see some funny crap. If you have a facebook go on there from time to time and see the crap the anti-vacc groups post questions about. Its hilarious


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Re: Vaccine Bill [Re: NSDQ160] #2900860
09/10/19 03:33 PM
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Why do you think most diseases had been whipped out in this country? ONE REASON" VACCINATIONS"! DUH!


Thomas Jefferson. The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.

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Re: Vaccine Bill [Re: Out back] #2900934
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Originally Posted by Out back
You guys will all be relieved to hear that I have no young kids any longer.
My kids are grown up and have their own children now.
But I've actually talked with several doctors and nurses who concur that vaccines can, and do, cause a number of serious health problems. There simply isn't enough data or research to be certain, as vaccine often has to be altered to address new strains of infection.


You need new doctors

Re: Vaccine Bill [Re: NSDQ160] #2900937
09/10/19 05:24 PM
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Outback grew up under powerlines and stood outside under acid rain too long when he was a kid


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Re: Vaccine Bill [Re: 257wbymag] #2900944
09/10/19 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by 257wbymag
Outback grew up under powerlines and stood outside under acid rain too long when he was a kid

Both assumptions are correct


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Re: Vaccine Bill [Re: NSDQ160] #2900982
09/10/19 06:18 PM
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Meh. Get them vaccinated.


It be's that way sometimes.

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Re: Vaccine Bill [Re: ronfromramer] #2901018
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Originally Posted by ronfromramer
One of the few things that the government does that is constitutionally mandated is to provide safety for the public. Vaccinations of school aged children fall under that responsibility unless you plan to keep them isolated and away from other peoples children


where exactly is that stated within the constitution.

Re: Vaccine Bill [Re: Broadhead26] #2901021
09/10/19 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Broadhead26
Originally Posted by ronfromramer
One of the few things that the government does that is constitutionally mandated is to provide safety for the public. Vaccinations of school aged children fall under that responsibility unless you plan to keep them isolated and away from other peoples children


where exactly is that stated within the constitution.

Yeah, please provide that constitutional reference, for those of us who know the constitution very well.


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Re: Vaccine Bill [Re: NSDQ160] #2901025
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They didn’t have vaccines when the constitution was written did they?


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Re: Vaccine Bill [Re: 257wbymag] #2901026
09/10/19 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by 257wbymag
They didn’t have vaccines when the constitution was written did they?

No sir. They did not.
However, the very first vaccine was initiated by the continental army, under George Washington


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Re: Vaccine Bill [Re: NSDQ160] #2901088
09/10/19 08:46 PM
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I reckon getting measles, small pox , etc shots are ok. But I'll be damn if I get a flu shot. Aint had one in years, and ain't had it ever.


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Re: Vaccine Bill [Re: Out back] #2901109
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Originally Posted by Out back
Originally Posted by 257wbymag
They didn’t have vaccines when the constitution was written did they?

No sir. They did not.
However, the very first vaccine was initiated by the continental army, under George Washington


That’s wrong. Washington ordered inoculations but the first vaccine was Edward Jenner’s cowpox vaccine. If I remember correctly it was in 1794 or 1796. There’s actually evidence of the Chinese doing inoculations as far back as 1000 AD. But surely you know all that since the constitution was written well after Washington retired as General of the Continental Army

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