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Re: Lock on and sticks [Re: Standbanger] #2939385
10/29/19 11:43 AM
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I just checked out a couple of videos that appear to be basically the same thing....in fact, they're doing it with just 1 stick.

Gotta say, this has me seriously reconsidering the thought of buying a climber...


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Re: Lock on and sticks [Re: Standbanger] #2939389
10/29/19 11:56 AM
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You can do it with one but that first stick gets my lanyard where it needs to be...makes it alot quicker for me...it can be physical tho.


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Re: Lock on and sticks [Re: CarbonClimber1] #2939406
10/29/19 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by CarbonClimber1
You can do it with one but that first stick gets my lanyard where it needs to be...makes it alot quicker for me...it can be physical tho.


i've re-read your previous post -- so you leave your 1st stick at the bottom of the tree, and just move the 2nd stick up to climb on up the tree?


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Re: Lock on and sticks [Re: Standbanger] #2939447
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I just don't see how that's an advantage over a climber. With your method you still have to carry two stick sections and the stand plus all your gear. You have to reach down and undue a section that you just tightened enough to support your weight and then repeat the process to advance up the tree. My Summit climber is compact and has carrying straps. You attach once at the base of the tree, then sit down and start climbing.

More power to you. thumbup

Re: Lock on and sticks [Re: JA] #2939454
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Originally Posted by JA
I just don't see how that's an advantage over a climber. With your method you still have to carry two stick sections and the stand plus all your gear. You have to reach down and undue a section that you just tightened enough to support your weight and then repeat the process to advance up the tree. My Summit climber is compact and has carrying straps. You attach once at the base of the tree, then sit down and start climbing.

More power to you. thumbup


sticks can easily get around limbs - with a climber, you either have to saw or find another tree; also, even the quietest climbers make noise, esp on a pine tree ... but 6/half dozen of another - hunt how you feel comfortable & enjoy; there's pro's & con's to each method in my mind ... i've used both over the years, and just lean towards steps/sticks/lock-on's personally ...

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Re: Lock on and sticks [Re: BamaGuitarDude] #2939462
10/29/19 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by BamaGuitarDude
Originally Posted by CarbonClimber1
You can do it with one but that first stick gets my lanyard where it needs to be...makes it alot quicker for me...it can be physical tho.


i've re-read your previous post -- so you leave your 1st stick at the bottom of the tree, and just move the 2nd stick up to climb on up the tree?

Thats correct...its just how i do it...id still like to have me a lone wolf climber if i dont have to walk far but thats rare for me...and it would help when i get to hunt with a rifle which is rare...theys alot of ways to get up trees...


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Re: Lock on and sticks [Re: CarbonClimber1] #2939464
10/29/19 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by CarbonClimber1
Originally Posted by BamaGuitarDude
Originally Posted by CarbonClimber1
You can do it with one but that first stick gets my lanyard where it needs to be...makes it alot quicker for me...it can be physical tho.


i've re-read your previous post -- so you leave your 1st stick at the bottom of the tree, and just move the 2nd stick up to climb on up the tree?

Thats correct...its just how i do it...id still like to have me a lone wolf climber if i dont have to walk far but thats rare for me...and it would help when i get to hunt with a rifle which is rare...theys alot of ways to get up trees...


10-4; you're right about that! LOL


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Re: Lock on and sticks [Re: Standbanger] #2939494
10/29/19 02:37 PM
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Ive drilled trees but im not keen on it but i do have 2 ez cut hand drills and another one from a dude who Built them in ohio...warren womack had some good videos on the woodpecker drill...ive also hung stands with my tree hooks...i climbed power poles by trade so i came by that honest as a personal learned skill...but i had to come up with ways to climb that didnt hurt trees when i ran out of private land...so far..the way i get up trees and hang a stand now is the best way ive done it yet..to me...i can hang a loc on blindfolded...but just cause i have done it alot.


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Re: Lock on and sticks [Re: Standbanger] #2939496
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Y’all dont check out saddlehunter.com. Those guys over there are always coming up with crazy ways to climb trees. For example, a saddle and the top (seat) portion of the lonewolf hand climber.

Re: Lock on and sticks [Re: Standbanger] #2939501
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On a hang and hunt setup, I don't see the benefit of a drill over a screw in step.


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Re: Lock on and sticks [Re: 7x57_Mauser] #2939507
10/29/19 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by 7x57_Mauser
Since we can't drill holes in trees on public, I use the Wild Edge steps. Jim Stepp came up with them years ago, and now some other guy owns the patent. They can be a little bit of a b*tch to set up, but once you get the hang of it you can get up and down a tree no problem. I also use an "aider" to get higher with fewer actual steps.

P.S. I'm a saddle hunter, and I don't draw 70lbs. gun


I'm using the WE steps as well except with the knaider/swaider method of climbing. I can get 20+ ft with only four steps. It sure is a light way to hunt.

Re: Lock on and sticks [Re: N2TRKYS] #2939537
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Originally Posted by N2TRKYS
On a hang and hunt setup, I don't see the benefit of a drill over a screw in step.

On an initial setup, there probably isn’t any, however, if you return to that tree later in the season, you would be able to climb much quicker as the holes you drilled are already there. I can carry more bolts comfortably than steps. The drill, bolts and loc on is the most efficient way that I’ve ever found to climb a tree.

Re: Lock on and sticks [Re: 7x57_Mauser] #2939581
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Originally Posted by 7x57_Mauser
Since we can't drill holes in trees on public, I use the Wild Edge steps. Jim Stepp came up with them years ago, and now some other guy owns the patent. They can be a little bit of a b*tch to set up, but once you get the hang of it you can get up and down a tree no problem. I also use an "aider" to get higher with fewer actual steps.

P.S. I'm a saddle hunter, and I don't draw 70lbs. gun


I should have said that my draw weight is 70lbs. I am not sure if I could draw 70lbs from a saddle.

Re: Lock on and sticks [Re: AMB] #2939583
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Originally Posted by AMB
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On a hang and hunt setup, I don't see the benefit of a drill over a screw in step.

On an initial setup, there probably isn’t any, however, if you return to that tree later in the season, you would be able to climb much quicker as the holes you drilled are already there. I can carry more bolts comfortably than steps. The drill, bolts and loc on is the most efficient way that I’ve ever found to climb a tree.


What steps were you using?


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Re: Lock on and sticks [Re: N2TRKYS] #2939591
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Originally Posted by N2TRKYS
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On a hang and hunt setup, I don't see the benefit of a drill over a screw in step.

On an initial setup, there probably isn’t any, however, if you return to that tree later in the season, you would be able to climb much quicker as the holes you drilled are already there. I can carry more bolts comfortably than steps. The drill, bolts and loc on is the most efficient way that I’ve ever found to climb a tree.


What steps were you using?

EZ climb folding step

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Re: Lock on and sticks [Re: AMB] #2939613
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Originally Posted by AMB
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On a hang and hunt setup, I don't see the benefit of a drill over a screw in step.

On an initial setup, there probably isn’t any, however, if you return to that tree later in the season, you would be able to climb much quicker as the holes you drilled are already there. I can carry more bolts comfortably than steps. The drill, bolts and loc on is the most efficient way that I’ve ever found to climb a tree.


What steps were you using?

EZ climb folding step


I use the EZ Climb step that doesn’t fold. Very packable, quiet, and very easy to use. Those and a lock on are the perfect mobile setup.


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Re: Lock on and sticks [Re: Standbanger] #2939679
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Does it not suck to have to screw in steps every hunt?

Re: Lock on and sticks [Re: Cutem] #2939703
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Originally Posted by Cutem
Does it not suck to have to screw in steps every hunt?


No, it's very easy.


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Re: Lock on and sticks [Re: Standbanger] #2939707
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How many steps would the average person need to get 15 to 20 ft?

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