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Re: Iran has fired 30 missles
[Re: Dublgrumpy]
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01/07/20 07:44 PM
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GrandSlam
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Maybe some of them will soon be rejoicing with their 72 virgins. I thought it was 27 sturgeons.
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Re: Iran has fired 30 missles
[Re: perchjerker]
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01/07/20 07:58 PM
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Irishguy
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We need to carefully calculate what we are going to do. Russia and China have traditionally been allies of Iran. As I mentioned in an earlier thread, Persians and/or Shia have not traditionally been our adversaries. The Sunni have traditionally been our enemies.
It is interesting to look back at history and analyse how seemingly small incidents and alliances have led to previous global conflicts and how those conflicts directly led to subsequent global conflicts. The assassination of archduke Franz Ferdinand. (WWI) The alliance of Germany, Italy and Japan and how at least two of those countries felt threatened with regards to natural resources and decided to take a preemptive strike to attempt to secure the resources that they felt they needed. (WWII)
Sun Tsu states in his iconic book that you should always leave your enemy a way out and never back him into a corner where he feels he as no escape. If you do he has no option but to fight to the death.
Hopefully Trump is surrounded with knowledgeable advisers and he will listen to their counsel.
We need to respond, so as not to be perceived as weak, yet at the same time not escalate the conflict to the point that it affects the balance of power in the mid-east and draws in China, Russia or both. We don't elect presidents to make rash decisions based on emotion or revenge. We elect presidents to make wise decisions.
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Re: Iran has fired 30 missles
[Re: Irishguy]
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01/07/20 08:01 PM
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James
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We need to carefully calculate what we are going to do. Russia and China have traditionally been allies of Iran. As I mentioned in an earlier thread, Persians and/or Shia have not traditionally been our adversaries. The Sunni have traditionally been our enemies.
It is interesting to look back at history and analyse how seemingly small incidents and alliances have led to previous global conflicts and how those conflicts directly led to subsequent global conflicts. The assassination of archduke Franz Ferdinand. (WWI) The alliance of Germany, Italy and Japan and how at least two of those countries felt threatened with regards to natural resources and decided to take a preemptive strike to attempt to secure the resources that they felt they needed. (WWII)
Sun Tsu states in his iconic book that you should always leave your enemy a way out and never back him into a corner where he feels he as no escape. If you do he has no option but to fight to the death.
Hopefully Trump is surrounded with knowledgeable advisers and he will listen to their counsel.
We need to respond, so as not to be perceived as weak, yet at the same time not escalate the conflict to the point that it affects the balance of power in the mid-east and draws in China, Russia or both. We don't elect presidents to make rash decisions based on emotion or revenge. We elect presidents to make wise decisions. Definitely need to respond. But have you read their latest threat? It read something like of we (US) don't retaliate there will be no further bombings, but if we do there will be Hell to pay (pretty much what they said)
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Re: Iran has fired 30 missles
[Re: perchjerker]
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01/07/20 08:02 PM
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perchjerker
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Kerry ain't no spook ! He's an azzhole. He stagde a purple heart for himself in Nam and he has been involved with Iran since Obama. You can bet your azz he got some of that 150 billion too. His son is tied into that chit with Hunter Biden. Yeah , he's a spook ! Damn James, you act like Iran can be trusted. After all the chit they have committed they deserve a nuke. Attacking ships, shot down our drone. How much must they do before you say enough is enough ?
Last edited by perchjerker; 01/07/20 08:07 PM.
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Re: Iran has fired 30 missles
[Re: perchjerker]
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01/07/20 08:03 PM
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Straycat is pretty much spot on. Their culture, and cultures are the hardest thing to change about people, have been fighting wars for a thousand years. If they are not fighting "foreign invaders, in their words, they are fighting each other. The only time there has been peace in the Middle East is when they were conquered and ruled by an empire. The Babylonians, the Persians, the Romans, the Ottoman Turks, and the British are chief among these. The only way things are going to change would be the 2nd coming of Christ or the USA, Russians, and Chinese make a pact and divide it up based on oil output and rule jointly. I predict the former will happen before this.
Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
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Re: Iran has fired 30 missles
[Re: perchjerker]
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01/07/20 08:06 PM
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Wiley Coyote
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Trump needs to end this with one series of missile attacks. It may take 500 but if so, then we launch 500 missiles. Set Iran back 100 years and be done with it. THEN seal our southern border to prevent any more infiltration by terrorists.
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Re: Iran has fired 30 missles
[Re: perchjerker]
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01/07/20 08:07 PM
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Hannity is saying from his source the majority of the missiles missed their targets and that wasn’t by accident.
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Re: Iran has fired 30 missles
[Re: leroycnbucks]
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01/07/20 08:08 PM
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Hannity is saying from his source the majority of the missiles missed their targets and that wasn’t by accident. Just saw that also. They may be smarter than I thought
Not all Indians were hunters some toted firewood
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Re: Iran has fired 30 missles
[Re: perchjerker]
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01/07/20 08:08 PM
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It’s so damn f***ed up that the vast majority of MSM in America is pretty much a propaganda arm for Iran right now.
Yeah, well, I always heard there were three kinds of suns in Kansas: sunshine, sunflowers, and sons-of-bitches.
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Re: Iran has fired 30 missles
[Re: perchjerker]
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01/07/20 08:09 PM
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Re: Iran has fired 30 missles
[Re: perchjerker]
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01/07/20 08:09 PM
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Hannity calling it like it is.
Quietly killing turkeys where youre not!!! My tank full of give a fraks been runnin on empty I'm the paterfamilias
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Re: Iran has fired 30 missles
[Re: leroycnbucks]
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01/07/20 08:21 PM
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I generally think we should stay out of the middle east and let them kill each other. However, when it comes to Iran and N. Korea I'd like to see an uninhibited US military beat down on both. Not surgical strikes, but an absolutely devastating attack that leaves nothing untouched. They both need it. Then we need to withdraw our troops from every corner of the globe and tell them all to kiss our asses. Take all foreign aid away and get our shucks straight here for a solid decade before giving any kind of aid to any other nation for any reason. Let them do without for a while and they'll appreciate it when they miss it. I agree. Also agree. We never should have invaded Iraq. Never should have removed Sadam Hussein. They were the check on Iran. We removed that check. And handed Iraq to Iran on a silver platter. Biggest foreign policy blunder in American history imo. All courtesy of the globalist internationalist Neocons. And Afghanistan should have only been a 9-12 month punitve war. We been there almost twenty fricking years now. Wasted $2 Trillion on those pagan barbarian savages. All a complete total waste. All thanks to that idiotic internationalist foreign policy doctrines of the Neocons. Trump was elected to end that globalist Neocon foreign policy bullschitt. I would lay waste to all the Iranian nuke sites, their militia sites in Iraq and Syria, and then get the hell out and tell them to all go esad.
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Re: Iran has fired 30 missles
[Re: James]
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01/07/20 08:22 PM
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Hearing no casualties as of now Probably by design. Just trying to say hey we retaliated
Not all Indians were hunters some toted firewood
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Re: Iran has fired 30 missles
[Re: James]
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01/07/20 08:30 PM
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Hearing no casualties as of now Been waiting to hear if there were any. Not that it justifies it but i wonder how much of this was just a stunt to save face with the people.
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Re: Iran has fired 30 missles
[Re: perchjerker]
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01/07/20 08:30 PM
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As much as it would be nice to stay out of geo-political crap, it aint gonna happen, so we have to deal with it.
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Re: Iran has fired 30 missles
[Re: Reyn]
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01/07/20 08:53 PM
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Hearing no casualties as of now Been waiting to hear if there were any. Not that it justifies it but i wonder how much of this was just a stunt to save face with the people. They have the capability to hit what they are aiming for but I really don’t think they want a full blown war which could get the people to revolt.
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