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Re: Using calls to move turkey
[Re: JUGHEAD]
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02/04/20 07:02 PM
02/04/20 07:02 PM
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Joined: Feb 2013
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Atoler
14 point
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14 point
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 8,442
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Where I hunt, if you pussy-foot around trying to find the perfect setup, odds are they’ll go quiet and you’ll never get in the game. I used to think like this, the first several years I hunted them. I especially did on hunts where I was against the clock (before work hunt) and my only real shot of getting one killed on that day would essentially be an off the roost hunt. I called up a bunch of turkeys that I had essentially ZERO chance of killing (and didn't) because my setup was so terrible. Every hunt and situation is different, but when it comes to my more local, on private land, not much chance of anybody killing him but me kinda turkeys....I will walk off and and head to work (for short hunts) or wait/maneuver/listen/scheme for hours (when I have plenty of time) before I will make a call from a horrible setup (turkeys will use mountainous terrain/thickets/rocks and make you look/feel like a damn fool around here). And there is a way higher probability of him dying these days as a result too. I dearly love being in the game too, but not at the expense of relegating myself to almost impossible odds of killing him if/when I call him up. I don’t have any trouble setting down in a killing spot, the tricky part is setting down in a killing spot that coincides with what that bird wants to do.
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Re: Using calls to move turkey
[Re: Atoler]
#3033744
02/05/20 07:59 PM
02/05/20 07:59 PM
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Joined: Aug 2019
Posts: 639 Smuteye
Orion34
4 point
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4 point
Joined: Aug 2019
Posts: 639
Smuteye
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Where I hunt, if you pussy-foot around trying to find the perfect setup, odds are they’ll go quiet and you’ll never get in the game. I used to think like this, the first several years I hunted them. I especially did on hunts where I was against the clock (before work hunt) and my only real shot of getting one killed on that day would essentially be an off the roost hunt. I called up a bunch of turkeys that I had essentially ZERO chance of killing (and didn't) because my setup was so terrible. Every hunt and situation is different, but when it comes to my more local, on private land, not much chance of anybody killing him but me kinda turkeys....I will walk off and and head to work (for short hunts) or wait/maneuver/listen/scheme for hours (when I have plenty of time) before I will make a call from a horrible setup (turkeys will use mountainous terrain/thickets/rocks and make you look/feel like a damn fool around here). And there is a way higher probability of him dying these days as a result too. I dearly love being in the game too, but not at the expense of relegating myself to almost impossible odds of killing him if/when I call him up. I don’t have any trouble setting down in a killing spot, the tricky part is setting down in a killing spot that coincides with what that bird wants to do. I agree. Completely. Point is you can overthink it...
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Re: Using calls to move turkey
[Re: BrentM]
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02/06/20 12:32 AM
02/06/20 12:32 AM
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Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 16,022 Hartselle Al.
n2deer
Old Mossy Horns
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Old Mossy Horns
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 16,022
Hartselle Al.
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Turkey hunter ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Turkey killer^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Do you want to hear him gobble, or do you want to kill him.
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Re: Using calls to move turkey
[Re: AUwrestler]
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02/06/20 12:05 PM
02/06/20 12:05 PM
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Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 1,911 huntin the big lease
Turkeymaster
8 point
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8 point
Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 1,911
huntin the big lease
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there's no one secret to judging how a birds going to repsond or how ones going to travel. I've had them walk through the thicket crap you can find in S AL, come up a hill, down a hill, around a ridge, drop down into a bottom and take the creek etc. etc. just being in an area hearing birds from the roost to how they move once on the ground or even if they shut up once their on the ground can give you all the info you need to put yourself in position to kill him. what you do once you're in that position is what determines if you're successful in my opinion
"All is fair in love, War and Turkey Hunting"
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Re: Using calls to move turkey
[Re: jlbuc10]
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02/06/20 12:58 PM
02/06/20 12:58 PM
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Joined: Aug 2018
Posts: 5,629 Georgia and Missouri
Semo
12 point
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12 point
Joined: Aug 2018
Posts: 5,629
Georgia and Missouri
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Been watching pinhoti project alot and these guys do a lot more than just hear a gobble move straight in sit down and call. They always look at map to find terrain and the higher ground they expect turkey to take. Almost like setting up for a buck based on wind. But they actively walk down call to make the turkey walk in front of their set up. I want to hear from the turkey gurus about using calls and terrain to make a Tom walk in front of you in a place more killable. Is there any other way. I thought the same. I always put a plan together before I go after them. This, I haven't watched the videos but I thought that is just how turkey hunting was. Difference between me and my best turkey buddy is that I like to lead that turkey to the spot with my calling. He likes to get to the spot prior to calling using locators or waiting for the bird to gobble on his own. Both ways can be successful but mine can be more fun. I don't get bent out of shape over the use of Tom. (Tom, longbeard, gobbler, SOB, and fatherless child can be used...I don't care)
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Re: Using calls to move turkey
[Re: Semo]
#3034790
02/07/20 03:22 AM
02/07/20 03:22 AM
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Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 16,022 Hartselle Al.
n2deer
Old Mossy Horns
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Old Mossy Horns
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 16,022
Hartselle Al.
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Been watching pinhoti project alot and these guys do a lot more than just hear a gobble move straight in sit down and call. They always look at map to find terrain and the higher ground they expect turkey to take. Almost like setting up for a buck based on wind. But they actively walk down call to make the turkey walk in front of their set up. I want to hear from the turkey gurus about using calls and terrain to make a Tom walk in front of you in a place more killable. Is there any other way. I thought the same. I always put a plan together before I go after them. This, I haven't watched the videos but I thought that is just how turkey hunting was. Difference between me and my best turkey buddy is that I like to lead that turkey to the spot with my calling. He likes to get to the spot prior to calling using locators or waiting for the bird to gobble on his own. Both ways can be successful but mine can be more fun. I don't get bent out of shape over the use of Tom. (Tom, longbeard, gobbler, SOB, and fatherless child can be used...I don't care) When you mention how your buddy is so different it causes me to think about something similar. I have had the best luck when hunting with someone that offsets the way I hunt. I’m sometimes less aggressive than a few friends. And it seems we both benefit from the other when together.
Do you want to hear him gobble, or do you want to kill him.
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