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Re: Anyone familiar with the Senate Relief Bill? [Re: jawbone] #3081079
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Gross or adjusted income? Which will they look at?

Re: Anyone familiar with the Senate Relief Bill? [Re: jawbone] #3081173
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Adjusted income. 75,000 single filer, 150.000 joint filing. starts going down after them numbers till it hits zero around 99,000 single 198,000 joint. I believe it's $5 for every $100 above the 1st set of numbers

Re: Anyone familiar with the Senate Relief Bill? [Re: jawbone] #3081235
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So is this free money going to be taxed grin. I’m not familiar with this handout stuff.....

Re: Anyone familiar with the Senate Relief Bill? [Re: jawbone] #3081261
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I'm sure there will be taxes on it somehow, plus it will add to ur income when we file in 2021 so they will get something back for sure.


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Re: Anyone familiar with the Senate Relief Bill? [Re: jawbone] #3081329
03/26/20 08:16 PM
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I still want to know if the congressional bastages voted themselves the $25,000 raise...erhm, excuse me...."Cost of Living Increase"?


Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
Re: Anyone familiar with the Senate Relief Bill? [Re: jawbone] #3081335
03/26/20 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by jawbone
I still want to know if the congressional bastages voted themselves the $25,000 raise...erhm, excuse me...."Cost of Living Increase"?
i would be surprised if they didn’t

Re: Anyone familiar with the Senate Relief Bill? [Re: woodduck] #3081343
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Originally Posted by woodduck
Originally Posted by jawbone
I still want to know if the congressional bastages voted themselves the $25,000 raise...erhm, excuse me...."Cost of Living Increase"?
i would be surprised if they didn’t


The fact that we haven't heard anything about it probably means they did.


Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
Re: Anyone familiar with the Senate Relief Bill? [Re: jawbone] #3081349
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That really chaps my arse about that raise.

Re: Anyone familiar with the Senate Relief Bill? [Re: jawbone] #3081370
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yall got a source for this info or is just word of mouth


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Re: Anyone familiar with the Senate Relief Bill? [Re: jawbone] #3081376
03/26/20 08:54 PM
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The pay raise for Congress was never verified.

Re: Anyone familiar with the Senate Relief Bill? [Re: jawbone] #3081384
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Got laid off tonight. Gonna draw $685 unemployment from Pennsylvania plus $600 from the stimulus. That’s a big pay cut.

Re: Anyone familiar with the Senate Relief Bill? [Re: Hayzeus] #3081394
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Originally Posted by Hayzeus
Got laid off tonight. Gonna draw $685 unemployment from Pennsylvania plus $600 from the stimulus. That’s a big pay cut.

Where did you work at?

Re: Anyone familiar with the Senate Relief Bill? [Re: bhammedic84] #3081440
03/26/20 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by bhammedic84
yall got a source for this info or is just word of mouth


The raise? It was reported by the media to be included in Pelosi's dream bill, and I heard her say that it wasn't a raise, it was a cost of living increase (piss on my leg and tell me it's raining) but haven't heard anything else. Some of her bill made it into the Senate's final bill but I haven't heard if the raise did or not, thus my query.


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Re: Anyone familiar with the Senate Relief Bill? [Re: jawbone] #3081635
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don't know why this is being discussed , there is no relief bill, some idiot from KY> has the bill stopped because he don't like it , if I was TRUMP, id make sure no checks ever go to any one in KY> , if there ever is any relief checks !!!!!!

Re: Anyone familiar with the Senate Relief Bill? [Re: jawbone] #3081698
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Just skimmed through the actual bill being voted on today. They need to scrap it. The GOP caved and the majority of this funding goes straight to government agencies/Democrat pet projects/money laundering slush funds. There’s no reason this bill should be more than 20 pages long. It’s 850 ish on my iPhone. Congress gets 25M for “salaries and expenses”. Refugee resettlement and immigration assistance 300M. International Development fund 250M. HBCU’s get block grants. For IT Systems there is 2.15B allocated. States and certain state organizations are going to receive a ton of money (not totally disagreeing on these allocations but damn, how much money is really being spent by states on this virus), planned parenthood gets a ton of money. If you call yourself conservative you ought to go read through the copious amount of unrelated bullchit that has been thrown into this. If every single American got 1200.00 bucks (which is a ball park average, some will get nothing while others get to claim their 5 dependents) then that adds up to roughly 396 billion. There are provisions to allow small businesses to get a 10k advance and apply for gov backed loans through the SBA. So let’s say that’s going to amount to 500billion. We are still shy of 1Trillion. Overall this bill has close to 2trillion allocated in funds. The taxpayers are being bent over and Neegan’s bat is about to be rammed up our rears. The government elites are about to cash in on the backs of the American tax payer like never before. So yeah, I’m with Massey on this. This thing needs to go to a full vote where all those in favor can be counted. This pisses me off that in a time of supposed crisis, the people we elected see it as an opportunity to further grease their palms. The swamp is alive and well and the GOP is in on this just as much as the Dems.. I’ll get off my soap box now.

Re: Anyone familiar with the Senate Relief Bill? [Re: CeeHawk37] #3081702
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Originally Posted by CeeHawk37
Just skimmed through the actual bill being voted on today. They need to scrap it. The GOP caved and the majority of this funding goes straight to government agencies/Democrat pet projects/money laundering slush funds. There’s no reason this bill should be more than 20 pages long. It’s 850 ish on my iPhone. Congress gets 25M for “salaries and expenses”. Refugee resettlement and immigration assistance 300M. International Development fund 250M. HBCU’s get block grants. For IT Systems there is 2.15B allocated. States and certain state organizations are going to receive a ton of money (not totally disagreeing on these allocations but damn, how much money is really being spent by states on this virus), planned parenthood gets a ton of money. If you call yourself conservative you ought to go read through the copious amount of unrelated bullchit that has been thrown into this. If every single American got 1200.00 bucks (which is a ball park average, some will get nothing while others get to claim their 5 dependents) then that adds up to roughly 396 billion. There are provisions to allow small businesses to get a 10k advance and apply for gov backed loans through the SBA. So let’s say that’s going to amount to 500billion. We are still shy of 1Trillion. Overall this bill has close to 2trillion allocated in funds. The taxpayers are being bent over and Neegan’s bat is about to be rammed up our rears. The government elites are about to cash in on the backs of the American tax payer like never before. So yeah, I’m with Massey on this. This thing needs to go to a full vote where all those in favor can be counted. This pisses me off that in a time of supposed crisis, the people we elected see it as an opportunity to further grease their palms. The swamp is alive and well and the GOP is in on this just as much as the Dems.. I’ll get off my soap box now.

I am right there with you; A bill that is tailored to be a relief from the impacts of the virus, should be that and that ALONE.
They squeeze all this other b.s. In there so they can steal more of our money.
If they truly want to help the American people, freeze income tax until this thing dies down.
"Drain the swamp", hahaha, what a joke our government is.

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Re: Anyone familiar with the Senate Relief Bill? [Re: jawbone] #3081705
03/27/20 09:58 AM
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So 25mil for congressional salary and expenses divided by 465 members of Congress equates to a $53,763.44 raise per member or somewhere in that neighborhood while the rest of us get $1200 to weather the storm.

Every one of them need to go and we just need to start over.


Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
Re: Anyone familiar with the Senate Relief Bill? [Re: jawbone] #3081742
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anyone wonder how they draft 850 pages that quick? did they have these basic outline already sitting ready with a main focus to put on the front of it?

I am looking into the lending end of it and how this impacts our small businesses we deal with. It seems the paycheck protection program they built into this may be hard to monitor (imagine that).

We will have to wait for SBA to get ahold of it and tell us how they are going to implement it and how they are going to quantify the needs.


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Re: Anyone familiar with the Senate Relief Bill? [Re: todd w] #3081744
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Originally Posted by todd w
anyone wonder how they draft 850 pages that quick? did they have these basic outline already sitting ready with a main focus to put on the front of it?

I am looking into the lending end of it and how this impacts our small businesses we deal with. It seems the paycheck protection program they built into this may be hard to monitor (imagine that).

We will have to wait for SBA to get ahold of it and tell us how they are going to implement it and how they are going to quantify the needs.


I imagine the Aides were given specific topics to write a section on and what is should say. So in all likelihood, the whole thing was written by Aides and the members voting on it have no idea what it says.

Just another piece of legislation that will have to pass so we can see what it says.


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Re: Anyone familiar with the Senate Relief Bill? [Re: jawbone] #3081758
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$11 BILLION for Africa???


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