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Re: Ahmaud Arbery shooting in Georgia
[Re: canvasback]
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05/07/20 09:45 AM
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perchjerker
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I thought stand your ground only applied to your home or business. They are really grasping at straws to claim that. Am I wrong about it being home and business ? Face it he was killed for being black, nothing more. i haven't seen many thugs out jogging.
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Re: Ahmaud Arbery shooting in Georgia
[Re: perchjerker]
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05/07/20 09:59 AM
05/07/20 09:59 AM
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GomerPyle
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I thought stand your ground only applied to your home or business. They are really grasping at straws to claim that. Am I wrong about it being home and business ? Face it he was killed for being black, nothing more. i haven't seen many thugs out jogging. Even if SYG applied in public, it ain't standing your ground when you actively hunt the guy down, stop him, then shoot him
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Re: Ahmaud Arbery shooting in Georgia
[Re: perchjerker]
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05/07/20 10:42 AM
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doekiller
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I thought stand your ground only applied to your home or business. They are really grasping at straws to claim that. Am I wrong about it being home and business ? Face it he was killed for being black, nothing more. i haven't seen many thugs out jogging. Stand your ground can apply in public. But, you have to be in fear for your life and be able to give a legitimate reason why. Like, the guy had a gun and was coming at you. I agree, thugs are not known to be joggers.
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Re: Ahmaud Arbery shooting in Georgia
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05/07/20 11:15 AM
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The jogger was the one who had a right to stand his ground. From being attacked by two total redneck murderers. Hope the two men who murdered the jogger get the death penalty.
"The Tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson
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Re: Ahmaud Arbery shooting in Georgia
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05/07/20 11:54 AM
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... when they stop him he proceeds to beat the crap out of the white boy... Shoe on the other foot: You decide you need to lose some weigh so you take up jogging. One day while making a lap, 2 black guys (or Mexicans, pick a minority) block the road in front of you with their truck and hop out with guns. You have another vehicle running up behind you at the same time. You gonna stand there and take whatever, or are you going down fighting? We see on here constantly that you should never point a gun at something (or someone) you don't intend to kill. Fat boy drew down on this young man. He interprets that (correctly) as "this SOB aims to kill me." He chose fight over flight. I imagine in the moment, many of us would've responded the same way. To attempt to find excuses for these 2 guys is to try to justify killing a black guy simply because he is black. There has been no evidence provided to support any other position.
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." - Thomas Jefferson
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Re: Ahmaud Arbery shooting in Georgia
[Re: NotsoBright]
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05/07/20 12:21 PM
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All over the news here. Protesters on the streets in Atlanta. Should be looked into for sure. True, but I can't think of an instance that makes it OK or self defense. The prosecution blew this and now they had better get a Grand Jury seated tomorrow. That is the only way this can be mitigated hopefully. Failure to do so will just bring on more protest that from the outside looking in certainly seem justifiable.
Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
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Re: Ahmaud Arbery shooting in Georgia
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05/07/20 12:24 PM
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daylate
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There also has been no evidence that they killed him because he was black. That may turn out to be the case but to declare that outright is dangerous at best. Looking at this and not taking into account skin color is a more honest way of getting to the truth. Preconceived notions often obscure the truth. The only certainty in the moments we see is that this man was accosted by these other men and they killed him. THAT has to be dealt with and should have been immediately.
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Re: Ahmaud Arbery shooting in Georgia
[Re: jawbone]
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05/07/20 12:44 PM
05/07/20 12:44 PM
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All over the news here. Protesters on the streets in Atlanta. Should be looked into for sure. True, but I can't think of an instance that makes it OK or self defense. The prosecution blew this and now they had better get a Grand Jury seated tomorrow. That is the only way this can be mitigated hopefully. Failure to do so will just bring on more protest that from the outside looking in certainly seem justifiable. The only self defense would have been if the jogger had produced a gun and killed the two idiots with guns who chased him down in their truck. I wonder if it would have taken two months to bring charges against him if this had happened. I doubt it...
Dying ain't much of a living boy...Josey Wales
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Re: Ahmaud Arbery shooting in Georgia
[Re: daylate]
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05/07/20 01:08 PM
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There also has been no evidence that they killed him because he was black. That may turn out to be the case but to declare that outright is dangerous at best. Looking at this and not taking into account skin color is a more honest way of getting to the truth. Preconceived notions often obscure the truth. The only certainty in the moments we see is that this man was accosted by these other men and they killed him. THAT has to be dealt with and should have been immediately. While he may have not been killed solely because he was black his skin color definitely played a role imo on how it all played out.
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Re: Ahmaud Arbery shooting in Georgia
[Re: Stob]
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05/07/20 01:24 PM
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daylate
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Why is it ALWAYS about skin color/racism when something undesirable happens to a person of color? Because that is what people have been trained to think.
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Re: Ahmaud Arbery shooting in Georgia
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05/07/20 01:31 PM
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GomerPyle
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I do agree that the race card is played all too often without justification......but in this specific case I see it as racially influenced/motivated. Exactly.....this is a classic example of "the boy who cried wolf" finally seeing an actual wolf and some folks not believing him, or at least being skeptical.
There are 3 certainties in an uncertain world:
1. All Politicians Are Liars 2. All Gun Laws Are an Infringement 3. Taxation Is Theft
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Re: Ahmaud Arbery shooting in Georgia
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05/07/20 01:39 PM
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daylate
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I do agree that the race card is played all too often without justification......but in this specific case I see it as racially influenced/motivated. Exactly.....this is a classic example of "the boy who cried wolf" finally seeing an actual wolf and some folks not believing him, or at least being skeptical. Might be, might not be. What is certain however is that there is no excuse for charges not being filed against the guys that killed this man. Or for this much time passing and nothing be done.
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Re: Ahmaud Arbery shooting in Georgia
[Re: daylate]
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05/07/20 02:34 PM
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And if they did kill this man based on his skin color, then surely there is a special place in hell for them or anyone else who would do that. Hell does not discriminate, it sux for everyone.
Dying ain't much of a living boy...Josey Wales
Molon Labe
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Re: Ahmaud Arbery shooting in Georgia
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05/07/20 02:41 PM
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Still there is not an explanation as to why they did not call the police about somebody they "thought" was suspicious in their neighborhood first. If there have been burglaries in my neighborhood and I see somebody suspicious I call the cops.
"Never Trust Government" -- Smart people. "The Great thing we should Fear and the Weird Thing we Trust is Elon Musk" -- Me "You can be broke but you cant be poor." -- Ruthie-May Webster
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Re: Ahmaud Arbery shooting in Georgia
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05/07/20 03:02 PM
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BCLC
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