Excellent point.

That's not applicable in this Georgia case.

The two men in jail right now did not see the victim doing anything. They did not catch him "in the act" and he was not doing anything to them personally. They were under zero threat from him. They also were not under any color of enforcement to be able to "stop him" even with the Gomer Pyle "citizens arrest!" bullchit.

They got in a vehicle and chased down a black man jogging in a white neighborhood, confronted him with guns and killed him on the street when he tried to defend himself.

Then they claimed "self defense" along with coming up with this "string of crimes" bullchit the local PD says is not true, and their friends in the DA's office went along with them until the video came out.


This isn't going to your property to confront someone who is still there trespassing. That's different and y'all know it.

For the record, how do you know this? I just want to see ALL the facts. It does look like a street killing from what is out in public at this point but there has to be more even if it's more incriminating.

Damn Wiley, he was jogging when they started following him. I usually agree with you, but these bastards need to burn. I was because he was a black guy in an upscale community. Until asshats like these are gone we will continue to have race problems. It would have been different if he had pants revealing his ass and a hoody on, but we know joggers can't jog like that. They were as wrong as wrong could be. I for one hope they pay the ultimate price.

I'm not necessarily disagreeing but want to know what happened before the video started. Do you know what happened other than that video? Are you not curious about that part of it?

So the only reason we still have race issues is because of white people shooting black people? So i guess we can fix it with the reporations they deserve, because whitey been holding them down forever and whitey still carrying out lynchings. The only reason this is a story is because it was white guy shooting a black guy otherwise nobody outside a 50 mile radius would have ever even herd about this, it fits a narrative that all whites are still racist, hard for me to want to send 2 guys to prison without knowing all the facts and what happened leading up to this video, if those guys truley were just driving around the neighborhood looking for a black guy to shoot then yes they should fry

Y'all remember when 9 year old taytay Martin was just walking to the store to buy some candy and the evil white man shot him for being black?

I'm no lawyer but how does what happened before matter? They were armed and in a vehicle, he was unarmed and on foot. The only way they could have needed to defend themselves was if they put them selves into the situation. If he was breaking into houses you call the cops. Folllow him and tell them where he is sure, stop him in the street and shoot him..no. remember everyone's innocent until proven guilty.

I do not know any of the people involved, but I feel pretty certain that the man that was murdered did not threaten them. They most
Likely was gonna show this guy a thing or two and he probably panicked or told them to kiss his ass.
They are not law enforcement and had no rights to do any of the things they did.
Sad story

Take your own advice here.

I see you missed the point

But please tell me what could have possibly transpired before that makes what happened in the the video legal?

I didn't miss a damn thing. I want to see ALL the evidence. None of us know if the guy was armed a few minutes earlier and ditched a weapon unbeknownst to the shooters. WTF is wrong with wanting ALL the evidence laid out. Are you that phucking stupid?

They still put themselves into the situation, if he was armed they probably shouldn't have tried to stop him?

Goodman, if you remember the media never showed current photos of that thug. Just the 10 yr old little boy ones. Not the tated roided out thug, he really was.

They made it a point on the news to call him white at first, but Fox News threw it out there that he was Hispanic, and busted their little ball., G.H.

What a train wreck...

Abbhudsmon, I too would like to know all the facts before convicting anyone. But if there was an armed person running down the street that I live on and my family lives on, I would certainly arm myself and probably confront him as to what his intentions were. Now that doesn't give me or anyone else the right to gun down someone. But as said before all the facts need to be known.

I think the uproar is that these guys were not arrested until this video was released to the public. You don't arrest people on grounds that they are guilty. You arrest people on grounds that based on evidence they are possibly guilty and the burden is on the prosecutor to prove that. I think any reasonable person can see this video and come to the conclusion that warrants an arrest. Guilty is another question all together.

Murder is wrong killing is not. That 22 second vid is the media narrative. I'm not speaking for anyone but if ol'ahmaud was to frighten Wiley's grandkids I'd be more than happy to explain to investigators why ahmaud has 47 holes in him cause was still twitching after #46. Not to put LE folks on the spot but I read complacency the #1 reason for cops dying on duty maybe the elder McMichael had previous dealings with the deceased? Read Mas Ayoob stating the obvious that your gun is present so that's at least one gun onscene protect yourself from it. Anyone heard/read anything about ahmauds criminal record? I haven't. Apparently Ahmaud struggled with younger McMichael over a shotgun that sound smart? How bout compliance? I don't care if it's a $ 92.00 Chinese single barrel or $275000.00 James Purdey if Ahmauds fingerprints are on it and powder residues on him he created Fear. People that spread fear and terror tend to get shot...slot. You don't have to be "right" in court just reasonable. I'm no attorney law enforcement or internet bada$$ I just use logic and thank God I've never had to use my training.