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Re: Ahmaud Arbery shooting in Georgia
[Re: bruceleejones2]
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05/12/20 07:50 AM
05/12/20 07:50 AM
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Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 44,211 North Alabama
Wiley Coyote
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 44,211
North Alabama
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This guy makes several worthwhile points. The 4:30 mark in the video is particularly interesting, at least to me.
I firmly believe that a double gallows should be constructed on the East Lawn of The White House. Politicians who willfully and shamelessly violate their oath to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States of America should be swiftly tried and, upon conviction, publicly hanged at sunup the day after conviction. If multiple convicts are to be hanged they can choose with whom to share the gallows or names shall be drawn from the hangman's hat to be hanged 2 at a time.
NRA Life Member
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Re: Ahmaud Arbery shooting in Georgia
[Re: bhammedic84]
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05/12/20 07:53 AM
05/12/20 07:53 AM
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Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 3,761 Pace, FL
daylate
10 point
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10 point
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this was straight murder. nothing involuntary about it. when they saw him they knew damn good and well they were going to kill him. hell if anything its premeditated. they had a plan in place and that comes into play when the ol'boy was ridding in the bed of the truck You lost all credibility when you said this. Do you really believe this was premeditated and they set out with the goal of killing him? What they did was idiotic and they destroyed 3 lives in the process but come on man, at least say something credible.
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Re: Ahmaud Arbery shooting in Georgia
[Re: bruceleejones2]
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05/12/20 08:01 AM
05/12/20 08:01 AM
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Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 1,145 Covington county AL
Zzzfog
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6 point
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Posts: 1,145
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Correct. The man makes excellent points. Much better than about half of the guys on here who think the deceased was just out jogging. Give me a freaking break!
Right and wrong will never change---only people's perception!
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Re: Ahmaud Arbery shooting in Georgia
[Re: Wiley Coyote]
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05/12/20 08:07 AM
05/12/20 08:07 AM
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Posts: 224 Huntsville
bruceleejones2
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This guy makes several worthwhile points. The 4:30 mark in the video is particularly interesting, at least to me. Yeah. Not to mention the guy is black which really f's up the narrative. I myself was in the "WTF-why-haven't-these-guys-been-arrested-yet" camp initially before reading/seeing more facts and briefly falling for the media narrative.
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Re: Ahmaud Arbery shooting in Georgia
[Re: Wiley Coyote]
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05/12/20 08:37 AM
05/12/20 08:37 AM
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Joined: Feb 2014
Posts: 3,851 Dothan/Hartford,Al
87dixieboy
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10 point
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Again, if ALL the circumstances were the same BUT the confrontation was with a police officer what would the difference be? Then folks would be saying it was justified and this wouldn't even be an issue. Folks in the area would continue to riot but those on this site would have a different tune.
Only accurate rifles are interesting.
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Re: Ahmaud Arbery shooting in Georgia
[Re: 87dixieboy]
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05/12/20 09:11 AM
05/12/20 09:11 AM
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Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 3,761 Pace, FL
daylate
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Again, if ALL the circumstances were the same BUT the confrontation was with a police officer what would the difference be? Then folks would be saying it was justified and this wouldn't even be an issue. Folks in the area would continue to riot but those on this site would have a different tune. Hell, take it one step further. Take the exact same situation but the father and son who attempted the citizen's arrest are black. You would not hear a peep from a single soul about it. It is hard for many to resist the "whites are evil" training they have been indoctrinated with. Like I have said before, racism is as strong now as at any time in our nation's history. It will continue to get worse as long as the masses keep focusing on a person's skin color in every aspect of life and death.
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Re: Ahmaud Arbery shooting in Georgia
[Re: canvasback]
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05/12/20 10:02 AM
05/12/20 10:02 AM
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Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 11,693
abolt300
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That video by the black police officer lays out some excellent points. Based on quite a few of the posts on here, it looks like several members took to the recent Obama and Democrap training very well and fully adopted the "white guilt" theory pushed incessantly by the media for the past 11 years. Congrats guys looks like some of you retained that well. Like I said in my original post, just sit back and let's see what the evidence ends up showing before determining guilt or innocence. It's already showing a whole lot more than what the original story told. Evidently, that neighborhood is watched pretty closely by the property owners, and now there is definitive video evidence that the deceased was not out for his morning run and was not, just jogging through the neighborhood. The two white guys probably have contributory negligence by being present at the scene, but once the black kid left his position on the right side of the road and went at the guy on the opposite side of the truck and attempted to take his weapon, all bets were off. The fact that the black kid was the one that instigated the physical confrontation over the weapon will not play well in court, in accordance with GA law.
LIke others have said, if this was 2 black homeowners that shot a white meth head, with an established criminal record, that had been breaking into houses in their neighborhood, they would have been patted on the back and told good job. Justice should be blind and skin color should never play a role but unfortunately, everything today seems to be about skin color and keeping our country divided over race. I've got a close friend who is black and he said that if the kid charged him and tried to take his weapon, he would've shot him too.
Barack Obama's presidency should have been a good thing (from the point of proving a black man could be Pres in the US) but instead, because of his devisive policies, set race relations in this country back 50 years.
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Re: Ahmaud Arbery shooting in Georgia
[Re: canvasback]
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05/12/20 10:40 AM
05/12/20 10:40 AM
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Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 26,305 Prattville, Alabama
Skullworks
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 26,305
Prattville, Alabama
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Have the police made a statement as to why they haven't arrested him for breaking and entering?
"I'm not near as critical about how big they are as I once was. Smiles are more important now! We will grow more deer." Jimmy G.
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Re: Ahmaud Arbery shooting in Georgia
[Re: skidboot77]
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05/12/20 11:16 AM
05/12/20 11:16 AM
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Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 26,305 Prattville, Alabama
Skullworks
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 26,305
Prattville, Alabama
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If you were doing something illegal, would you pull your gun. Not unless you were a hardened criminal.I don’t understand the Lack of context in your question. His motives have a lot to do with what happened. To whom are you replying?
"I'm not near as critical about how big they are as I once was. Smiles are more important now! We will grow more deer." Jimmy G.
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Re: Ahmaud Arbery shooting in Georgia
[Re: abolt300]
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05/12/20 11:19 AM
05/12/20 11:19 AM
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Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 1,004 South Alabama
skidboot77
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Posts: 1,004
South Alabama
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That video by the black police officer lays out some excellent points. Based on quite a few of the posts on here, it looks like several members took to the recent Obama and Democrap training very well and fully adopted the "white guilt" theory pushed incessantly by the media for the past 11 years. Congrats guys looks like some of you retained that well. Like I said in my original post, just sit back and let's see what the evidence ends up showing before determining guilt or innocence. It's already showing a whole lot more than what the original story told. Evidently, that neighborhood is watched pretty closely by the property owners, and now there is definitive video evidence that the deceased was not out for his morning run and was not, just jogging through the neighborhood. The two white guys probably have contributory negligence by being present at the scene, but once the black kid left his position on the right side of the road and went at the guy on the opposite side of the truck and attempted to take his weapon, all bets were off. The fact that the black kid was the one that instigated the physical confrontation over the weapon will not play well in court, in accordance with GA law.
LIke others have said, if this was 2 black homeowners that shot a white meth head, with an established criminal record, that had been breaking into houses in their neighborhood, they would have been patted on the back and told good job. Justice should be blind and skin color should never play a role but unfortunately, everything today seems to be about skin color and keeping our country divided over race. I've got a close friend who is black and he said that if the kid charged him and tried to take his weapon, he would've shot him too.
Barack Obama's presidency should have been a good thing (from the point of proving a black man could be Pres in the US) but instead, because of his devisive policies, set race relations in this country back 50 years. You are quite right about the white guilt syndrome pushed by Democrats and the media. They have made the truth racist. If there are so many young black men being innocently targeted, why can’t the find a least one of there supposed martyrs who doesn’t have an lengthy criminal background
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Re: Ahmaud Arbery shooting in Georgia
[Re: Skullworks]
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05/12/20 11:21 AM
05/12/20 11:21 AM
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Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 1,004 South Alabama
skidboot77
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If you were doing something illegal, would you pull your gun. Not unless you were a hardened criminal.I don’t understand the Lack of context in your question. His motives have a lot to do with what happened. To whom are you replying? It was meant for Southbamaslayer
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Re: Ahmaud Arbery shooting in Georgia
[Re: daylate]
#3121612
05/12/20 11:22 AM
05/12/20 11:22 AM
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Joined: May 2015
Posts: 4,405 Calhoun County
jrs89
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Calhoun County
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Again, if ALL the circumstances were the same BUT the confrontation was with a police officer what would the difference be? Then folks would be saying it was justified and this wouldn't even be an issue. Folks in the area would continue to riot but those on this site would have a different tune. Hell, take it one step further. Take the exact same situation but the father and son who attempted the citizen's arrest are black. You would not hear a peep from a single soul about it. It is hard for many to resist the "whites are evil" training they have been indoctrinated with. Like I have said before, racism is as strong now as at any time in our nation's history. It will continue to get worse as long as the masses keep focusing on a person's skin color in every aspect of life and death. And thats why I couldn’t care less about this situation! It’s amazing how just this one killing as made 15 pages on a hunting forum.
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Re: Ahmaud Arbery shooting in Georgia
[Re: jrs89]
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05/12/20 11:31 AM
05/12/20 11:31 AM
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Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 26,305 Prattville, Alabama
Skullworks
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 26,305
Prattville, Alabama
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Again, if ALL the circumstances were the same BUT the confrontation was with a police officer what would the difference be? Then folks would be saying it was justified and this wouldn't even be an issue. Folks in the area would continue to riot but those on this site would have a different tune. Hell, take it one step further. Take the exact same situation but the father and son who attempted the citizen's arrest are black. You would not hear a peep from a single soul about it. It is hard for many to resist the "whites are evil" training they have been indoctrinated with. Like I have said before, racism is as strong now as at any time in our nation's history. It will continue to get worse as long as the masses keep focusing on a person's skin color in every aspect of life and death. And thats why I couldn’t care less about this situation! It’s amazing how just this one killing as made 15 pages on a hunting forum. Boredom.
"I'm not near as critical about how big they are as I once was. Smiles are more important now! We will grow more deer." Jimmy G.
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