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Re: Ole Man climbers = unsafe?
[Re: oakachoy]
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02/18/21 08:16 PM
02/18/21 08:16 PM
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abolt300
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I’ll tell you this, you’re crazy not to have the tree strap buckle pulled up to the top of each arm and buckled together so that it and the cable form a complete circle around the tree. The stand is inherently unsafe and subject to slippage the way you’re using it in the picture. 90% of tree stand accidents are the result of people not using the stands and safety features as designed. Those two straps that are hanging there on each side of the stand with the male and female buckle parts flapping in the breeze are almost as important as the metal pin you drop in the hole to secure the cable. People never cease to amaze me. If you hunt with it like that, both top and bottom, you’re really lucky you haven’t had an accident yet. Used properly, they are as safe as anything out there. I have 3 ol man stands and 3 summits. I use the all interchangeably with confidence. Well, I am lucky then, I tie the top to the bottom with them where the if the bottom slipped it would not go far. I will reevaluate that situation. I honestly learned the hard way right after they came out. I said “ what is this all this extra crap I don’t need that will just potentially make noise. I took them off and tossed them in the back of the truck. I was sitting in it with my back to the tree (Slick barked hardwood) like you’re doing and the next thing I knew my ass was on the bottom platform with my knees hitting me in the chin. Safety harness probably kept me from getting tossed out since it was tight. Got repositioned very very carefully and climbed down. Spooked me pretty bad. Another member told me he’d done the same thing and explained Why it works. I went back and read the manual on it and then it all makes sense. When you connect those two and pull them tight, they make a complete loop around the tree with the cable. Manual specifically says do not sit or hunt from the stand without those straps in place. It is virtually impossible for the stand to slip or even move on the tree when they are properly attached and cinched down. Both should be pulled up to the top of the posts on both sides and secured/ tightened in place there. I still tie my bottom to the top as an additional safety measure but when used properly, neither piece is going anywhere. Try it like I’m saying and you’ll be amazed at the difference in stability. Even on hard slick trees.
Last edited by abolt300; 02/18/21 08:19 PM.
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Re: Ole Man climbers = unsafe?
[Re: oakachoy]
#3356064
02/18/21 09:34 PM
02/18/21 09:34 PM
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Posts: 7,959 Boaz,AL
CarbonClimber1
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Ever person i ever met that didnt like ol man stands didnt know how to use them the right way..or they were to dang fat an shoulda stayed on the ground no matter what they used. I dont usem much anymore..cause they are heavy..all mine were old gen 1 with blades...never a manufactuered defect in mine...they did need work tho...they could be made into an amazingly quiet stand in the hands of the skilled..if modified. I never met many people that was ver good with climbing stands of any kind...most people suck cause they dont practice...and it shows. Newer ol mans suck...along with every other climbin stand. Everbody has an oppinion..an mine is most people suck at usin a climbin stand..its a comical chitshow. In the hands of somebody that knows what they are doin...there aint a better stand made(for non fat people) than a gen 1 straight arm ol man multivision..with certain modifications. If you aint got a top an bottom teather on any stand you use an slip straps...you need to stay at the house.
"I dont quit.. And ill fight alone if i have to"
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Re: Ole Man climbers = unsafe?
[Re: oakachoy]
#3356400
02/19/21 09:43 AM
02/19/21 09:43 AM
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Posts: 2,222 Central to South AL
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have 3 old models ( all 10+ years) and bought a branch new one this year. Always check them out pre-season , have never had an issue. If I pick a place to leave a stand long term, I use an Ol 'Man. If I am going to walk in and climb and bring it out I use one of my two Summits.
WDE
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Re: Ole Man climbers = unsafe?
[Re: oakachoy]
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02/19/21 12:00 PM
02/19/21 12:00 PM
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Posts: 11,799 Kennedy, al
globe
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THE slipping problem is caused by people not climbing properly. A climbing stand is a lever, and if you stand too close to the tree, you won’t have enough counter weight to hold yourself up. Especially if your a heavier person, you need to stand out close to the end and it won’t slip. Obviously some trees are more prone to slippage too.
Everything woke turns to shucks
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Re: Ole Man climbers = unsafe?
[Re: oakachoy]
#3357053
02/19/21 09:47 PM
02/19/21 09:47 PM
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Posts: 3,496 Sylvania Alabama
Sandmtnslayer
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Heard a million peeps saying a ol man would slip. Never had one let go and climbed a power pole yrs ago un marion county
Not all Indians were hunters some toted firewood
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Re: Ole Man climbers = unsafe?
[Re: Sandmtnslayer]
#3357178
02/20/21 03:00 AM
02/20/21 03:00 AM
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Posts: 7,959 Boaz,AL
CarbonClimber1
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Heard a million peeps saying a ol man would slip. Never had one let go and climbed a power pole yrs ago un marion county Ever tteestand ever made will slip if the conditions are right..i like to got my butt killed in a summit viper i borrowed...awkward climbin bastage...never had used one...buddy let me borrow it cause i had a stand blow off on the interstate( i was younger an dumber) an didnt have an extra. I looked like a monkey ridin a football..totally out of my element. I think summits are chit...cause i cant climb worth a chit in one...an i think thats 99% why anybody doesnt like something at first..we dont use it enough to understand it..im guilty of it..and anybody else who says they are not is uhh fibbin...
"I dont quit.. And ill fight alone if i have to"
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Re: Ole Man climbers = unsafe?
[Re: oakachoy]
#3357464
02/20/21 02:05 PM
02/20/21 02:05 PM
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Posts: 35,956 Boxes Cove
2Dogs
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20-30 years ago no, now absolutely.
"Why do you ask"?
Always vote the slowest path to socialism.
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Re: Ole Man climbers = unsafe?
[Re: oakachoy]
#3357594
02/20/21 05:01 PM
02/20/21 05:01 PM
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Posts: 3,917 West Alabama
Ant67
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In 2007 they started making the old man with a bow in the arms. For reasons I don’t understand the pressure on the arms could cause the pins held with a clip to pop loose. Happened to me and I hung upside down until I could break the foot strap buckle. Fortunately I was only 10 feet off the ground. Don’t even remember how I landed. Get the pins that secure with a wing nut.
Last edited by Ant67; 02/20/21 05:02 PM.
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