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Re: Now it is 5 friends in the past three weeks.
[Re: abolt300]
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09/12/21 02:37 PM
09/12/21 02:37 PM
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jmj120
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I just like to cut thru all the BS so that people might actually have some good info as to whether to take it or not. Here’s some facts for you JmJ120, since you stated “facts” earlier in your post. There were right at 10,000 Covid deaths in Alabama before the first vaccine was even available. Thru yesterday, there have been 12,673 total deaths. That means since the vax came into play, roughy 2,673 people have died. Youre saying you personally have lost over 20 friends and acquaintances. So You personally knew 1% of all the deaths occurring in Alabama since the vax came out. That means you have to be one of three things: a liar, the unluckiest guy in the world, or you run with some of the most unhealthy people in the US.
If you are telliing the truth, prayers for you and those around you. I’m not anti-vax but I hate seeing lies and misinformation being spread wholesale trying to scare people into doing something. It makes it real hard to evaluate the risk and reward and make an informed decision as to whether to take the shot or not. Here’s my personal experience:
I know 4 people that have died from Covid. One was Male, 64 and had serious lung problems due to asbestos exposure and was fully vaxed. I know another that was 74 female, probably 125lbs overweight and diabetic unvaxed. Third was a 48yr old male, 50-75lbs overweight, no other known health problems Unvaxed .
And lastly, I know one 62 yr old female, 5’’6” 130 lbs, great shape, zero health problems, got the (moderna)shot at 8:00 am, started feeling bad with a headache about 4:30, told her husband she was going to take a nap before dinner and laid down on the couch. He went to wake her up for dinner at 6:30 pm and she was not breathing, pronounced dead at 7:30 pm, 11.5 hrs after getting the jab.
So excuse me If the vax doesn’t have a stellar track record in my little world. Vax didn’t save one, may have killed one, and two died that possibly would not have if they were vaxed. Personal experience leads one to be skeptical when seeing people posting obvious BS (like personally knowing 1% of all the deaths in AL) and then telling people to get vaxed every other post. If you’re making yourself feel better about your decision by posting then by all means do so, just tell people what you’re doing it so that it doesn’t influence them. I know a ton of people that have taken the jab and not had any problems yet, Numerous vaxed and even more completely unvaxed people that have had Covid and gotten over it just fine on their own, and a I also know a ton of people like me, trying to sort thru all the BS, statistical manipulation, and outright lies in an attempt to figure out whether it’s worth it or not to take a vaccine for which zero, long term clinical trials have been performed. Regardless of ones stance, it should be a personal decision and everyone, both vaxed and unvaxed should be praying for the end of this virus and each other’s health and safety.
Jawbone, prayers for you and the families of those that you know that have passed. Same for you and yours JMJ We had 4 on the same street pass away week before last. Run the stats on that. Also 2 passed from a local industry. That’s 6 right there just in the past couple of weeks. I have no reason to lie, believe what you want to believe. I’m sitting here now with a 17 year old that lost her Mom recently. Anyway, carry on. I’m done
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Re: Now it is 5 friends in the past three weeks.
[Re: jwalker77]
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09/12/21 02:56 PM
09/12/21 02:56 PM
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Posts: 27,162 Fayetteville TN Via Selma
jawbone
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If i die tomorrow, i would appreciate it if no one used my death as a way to promote their opinion. Thats just tacky and would be disrespectful of my memory. Surely there would be some better way for me to be remembered. Hopefully, you won't catch it and die, but if you do I promise every post you make about the vaccine, I'm going to pull back up and show people what hard hotheadedness can get you right now. It took some friends dying to get my son and others to change their minds, so if that is what it will take to save people, then so be it. Remember, I don't like to, but when needed, I play rough.
Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
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Re: Now it is 5 friends in the past three weeks.
[Re: jawbone]
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09/12/21 03:13 PM
09/12/21 03:13 PM
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Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 9,565 Cape San Blas, Florida
Deadwood
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One of the most sinister attributes of this damned bioweapon is the sniping it causes between friends. What if we argued openly about the different Churches we all chose to attend? Everybody just try to cool it, make your own decisions, and stop hitting “send”. Please.
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Re: Now it is 5 friends in the past three weeks.
[Re: jawbone]
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09/12/21 03:15 PM
09/12/21 03:15 PM
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eclipse829
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I know 4 since the vax came out. 2 prior. None were vaccinated. I know several more who wound up in hospital but got well enough to come home. Some of those lives are forever changed due to this friggin virus. Dragging oxygen bottles around, no energy, filing for disability. These were active hardworking individuals some were pre vax, some since. None vaccinated. It ain't only about dying. I worked in the woods today and finally 10 months post covid had enough energy and wind to stay with it for several hours.
We here allot about comorbidities, "they weren't healthy, he had asthma, he was diabetic, she was overweight, she was 74" Some of those above fell into those categories. However all were managing conditions.
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Re: Now it is 5 friends in the past three weeks.
[Re: jmj120]
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09/12/21 03:30 PM
09/12/21 03:30 PM
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Zzzfog
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Spot on. Its pathetic when folks push their agendas on others.[/quote] I don’t have an agenda, just a set of facts. Over 20 friends and acquaintances passed away. None vaccinated. I don’t know of anyone vaccinated who has passed away. Just facts. Feel free to keep scrolling [/quote]
I know of 2 who were vaccinated who died from it. Another coworker got the first shot and now is on a heart monitor. Another coworker has missed 2 months of work after getting the first shot. It’s not all positive news about the “vaccine” and a lot of us would simply like for people to acknowledge that.
Right and wrong will never change---only people's perception!
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Re: Now it is 5 friends in the past three weeks.
[Re: jawbone]
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09/12/21 03:42 PM
09/12/21 03:42 PM
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jwalker77
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If i die tomorrow, i would appreciate it if no one used my death as a way to promote their opinion. Thats just tacky and would be disrespectful of my memory. Surely there would be some better way for me to be remembered. Hopefully, you won't catch it and die, but if you do I promise every post you make about the vaccine, I'm going to pull back up and show people what hard hotheadedness can get you right now. It took some friends dying to get my son and others to change their minds, so if that is what it will take to save people, then so be it. Remember, I don't like to, but when needed, I play rough. I guess ill continue to respect the recently deceased and their families and not pound what i perceive to be their weaknesses or failures into everybody's heads. You go ahead and play rough. You be you, ill be me
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Re: Now it is 5 friends in the past three weeks.
[Re: jawbone]
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09/12/21 03:55 PM
09/12/21 03:55 PM
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Phil_Army
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This delta variant is NOT the common flu. We had a 39 year old friend die last week who had no previous signs of any kind of health issues. He was in the ICU in Tuscaloosa for a few weeks. EVERY single person in the ICU with covid was unvaccinated, every single one. He left behind a wife and 3 kids. We've had 4 other "daddies" leave their families behind in the last 2 weeks and all were under the age of 45 with no preexisting conditions that they knew of. I'd rather have "complications" from the vaccine than "coffins" for my wife and sons. I've got a lot to lose and most of you do as well.
And FYI the "mark of the beast" comes later in Revelation after the Believers are already gone. This vaccine isn't the mark. If it was, that means the rapture already happened and we were all left behind...
Broker/Owner and Area Representative for 1st Class Real Estate 2018's #1 Real Estate Agent according to the Tuscaloosa News
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Re: Now it is 5 friends in the past three weeks.
[Re: Zzzfog]
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09/12/21 04:00 PM
09/12/21 04:00 PM
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Spot on. Its pathetic when folks push their agendas on others.
I don’t have an agenda, just a set of facts. Over 20 friends and acquaintances passed away. None vaccinated. I don’t know of anyone vaccinated who has passed away. Just facts. Feel free to keep scrolling [/quote] I know of 2 who were vaccinated who died from it. Another coworker got the first shot and now is on a heart monitor. Another coworker has missed 2 months of work after getting the first shot. It’s not all positive news about the “vaccine” and a lot of us would simply like for people to acknowledge that. [/quote] We are not being told the truth about the vaccine because it makes people question the government and their push for vaccine injection
Last edited by 300gr; 09/12/21 04:00 PM.
Two roads diverged in the woods and I took the one with deep ruts,hills and mud.It may be bumpy but WHAT A RIDE!
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Re: Now it is 5 friends in the past three weeks.
[Re: Bamarich2]
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09/12/21 04:19 PM
09/12/21 04:19 PM
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jawbone
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Some things are just better left alone. Im sure the families of those five dead friends would agree. Actually, the families of deceased people who were unvaccinated that I know of are doing the exact opposite - they've become advocates of the vaccine and most seem to be very outspoken about it. They're usually up front honest about why they didn't get the vaccine and why they have changed their mind. That's just the people I know - it may not be that way with others though. This is why I'm speaking out like I am. While visiting the young widow and her two year old son after her young husband passed away last week, she was the one bring up getting vaccinated and making sure we know the dangers of not being vaxxed. Now after the shock is wearing off she is dealing with her son asking where Daddy is? That is the reality of the new variant. I don't want anybody more to be dealing with it, whether they are my personal friends or just Aldeer friends. If you don't want to hear me bringing up the need to get vaxxed, feel free to put me on ignore.
Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
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Re: Now it is 5 friends in the past three weeks.
[Re: jawbone]
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09/12/21 04:54 PM
09/12/21 04:54 PM
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TickaTicka
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I know zero people who've died. Know 3 who've been hospitalized.
I know hundreds who've been vaccinated. Everyone of those is fine too with the exception of one young girl who got myocarditis. Its been an issue, but now I heard she's off immunosuppressives and is fine.
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Re: Now it is 5 friends in the past three weeks.
[Re: Lonster]
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09/12/21 06:02 PM
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abolt300
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Can’t help but notice that all of these folks dying are dying in hospitals…
It hasn’t wiped out the homeless… Yeah, that’s kinda strange isn’t it. Poor diets, poor living conditions, poor general health and hygiene yet they aren’t dropping like flies. Maybe their apparent immunity should be studied.
Last edited by abolt300; 09/12/21 06:05 PM.
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Re: Now it is 5 friends in the past three weeks.
[Re: jawbone]
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09/12/21 06:08 PM
09/12/21 06:08 PM
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Phil_Army
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How do you know the homeless aren’t dying in the hospitals? Hospitals can’t turn people away who are critical
Broker/Owner and Area Representative for 1st Class Real Estate 2018's #1 Real Estate Agent according to the Tuscaloosa News
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Re: Now it is 5 friends in the past three weeks.
[Re: abolt300]
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09/12/21 06:13 PM
09/12/21 06:13 PM
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cartervj
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Can’t help but notice that all of these folks dying are dying in hospitals…
It hasn’t wiped out the homeless… Yeah, that’s kinda strange isn’t it. Poor diets, poor living conditions, poor general health and hygiene yet they aren’t dropping like flies. Maybe their apparent immunity should be studied. According to stats it should be around only 1% homeless dying correct.
Last edited by cartervj; 09/12/21 06:14 PM.
“Socialism only works in two places: Heaven where they don't need it and hell where they already have it.” ― Ronald Reagan
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Re: Now it is 5 friends in the past three weeks.
[Re: jawbone]
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09/12/21 06:17 PM
09/12/21 06:17 PM
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Todd1700
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Can’t help but notice that all of these folks dying are dying in hospitals…
It hasn’t wiped out the homeless… People in critical condition get taken to hospitals regardless of their housing status. And how pray tell do you know whether a person who died of covid was homeless or not? Where do I look up that stat?
The best index to a person’s character is (a) how he treats people who can’t do him any good, and (b) how he treats people who can’t fight back. - Abigail van Buren
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Re: Now it is 5 friends in the past three weeks.
[Re: jawbone]
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09/12/21 06:19 PM
09/12/21 06:19 PM
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JustHunt
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Always sorry to hear of anyone dying from this virus and I pray every night for all individuals affected by it. But I have a question for those who know so many people who have dies from the virus. How many of those who died just got put in a hospital on a vent getting nothing more than basic hospital protocol?
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