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Re: Now it is 5 friends in the past three weeks. [Re: jawbone] #3486581
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I am aware of a person who got the vax and immediately had a horrendous case of shingles, which is a known side effect. She has been fighting this all summer. Another one got the shot, and within days had horrible neurological issues regarding his digestive system. He has spent weeks in and out of the hospital, lost 30 lbs that he didn't need to lose, and continues to have life-altering side effects.

I know exactly one person who died from covid, and it happened last week. He worked for a company I deal with in Houston, and was just an acquaintance. My mom knows one, but his was lung failure due to overpressure of the ventilator.

I am truly sorry that you know people who passed. I am personally more afraid of the vaccine than covid.

My doctor recommends the shot, his nurse practitioner/PA confided in me that she was not planning to get it until she was forced to do so to stay employed.

Re: Now it is 5 friends in the past three weeks. [Re: jawbone] #3486588
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Re: Now it is 5 friends in the past three weeks. [Re: jawbone] #3486616
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All prescription drugs have side effects. Some a lot worse than others. I know of one person who got really sick and died a couple of days after he was vaccinated with his second shot. He was in his 80's and in poor health.

I have lost one very close friend to covid - a 50 year old with no major previous conditions and I;m almost sure he was unvaxed.

I've had many close friends get very sick from covid. All unvaxed. 3 of those were hospitalized and have long roads of recovery ahead. One in his early 30's one in his 50's, one in his 60's. The one in his 30's had already had covid within 8 months of getting hsopitalized.

The vax has side effects, no doubt. But in my sphere , covid has more sever symptoms and with far greater frequency.

The hospitals are filled with people who are unvaxed with covid. Numbers given to me by people I know working in the hospitals. Not the internet. These same hospitals have little to no people in their critical care units who are experiencing life threatening symptoms due to being vaccinated.

Again, facts I have been given in my sphere.

Bottom line, if you don't want the vaccine, just say you don't want it. But don't deny the facts.

I will support anyone who doesn't want to be vaxed by the way.

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Re: Now it is 5 friends in the past three weeks. [Re: BPI] #3486660
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Originally Posted by BPI
All prescription drugs have side effects. Some a lot worse than others. I know of one person who got really sick and died a couple of days after he was vaccinated with his second shot. He was in his 80's and in poor health.

I have lost one very close friend to covid - a 50 year old with no major previous conditions and I;m almost sure he was unvaxed.

I've had many close friends get very sick from covid. All unvaxed. 3 of those were hospitalized and have long roads of recovery ahead. One in his early 30's one in his 50's, one in his 60's. The one in his 30's had already had covid within 8 months of getting hsopitalized.

The vax has side effects, no doubt. But in my sphere , covid has more sever symptoms and with far greater frequency.

The hospitals are filled with people who are unvaxed with covid. Numbers given to me by people I know working in the hospitals. Not the internet. These same hospitals have little to no people in their critical care units who are experiencing life threatening symptoms due to being vaccinated.

Again, facts I have been given in my sphere.

Bottom line, if you don't want the vaccine, just say you don't want it. But don't deny the facts.

I will support anyone who doesn't want to be vaxed by the way.


Well said... my son is an RN at a major hospital in Alabama and he was against the vaccine until just recently. As he is seeing the wave of un-vaccinated healthy people die and get admitted to the ICU. My sister and brother are both un-vaccinated. I asked why and they said.. "I just think it's bulldoodoo". Which is a general answer by the un-vax. They point to the 4 out of 100 who where vaccinated and in ICU with Covid as why they are not getting the vaccine. I don't understand that logic but your choice. My sister and I are planning a birthday party for my brother next weekend. I love them the same vaccinated or not. I also believe if you chose to go un-vaccinated you need to live with the consequences for your decisions. If you get the Rona and have to miss a month of work because you are on the vent... I am not going to donate to your Go-FundMe. You need to own it.

If you visit your primary care physician and they recommend not getting the vaccine, you should follow their advice.

Re: Now it is 5 friends in the past three weeks. [Re: jawbone] #3486683
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Just wondering about our fine elected gov't officials. Remember that your washington senators & representatives were & still are exempt from the obamacare mandates....why? This same bunch as well as all of their staff are also exempt from the wu-flu "vaccine" mandate...why? All postal workers are also exempt...why? If all of this sh!t is so grand( exactly what all of it is...sh!t) then why are these folks not having a heaping helping of it for themselves? If a person takes what the government is trying to forcibly give them, can it be that it's really good for your well being? Anyone that trusts our government to this extent is an absolute fool. There was a time when researchers created real vaccines to treat illness. Jonas Salk comes to mind. People like him,I believe, were truly out to help others. Fast forward to today. The corruption in gov't is unbelievable. Also, does anyone really believe drug companies are out to cure disease? Hardly. Curing a disease would end the profits associated with it. they only want to treat symptoms of illness to keep the money flowing. We are all, I'm afraid, sooner rather than later-about to face the worst reality check as citizens of this country,we have ever seen since the civil war. Or for that matter,since we were subjects of Great Britain.

Re: Now it is 5 friends in the past three weeks. [Re: jawbone] #3486696
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“ I also believe if you chose to go un-vaccinated you need to live with the consequences for your decisions. If you get the Rona and have to miss a month of work because you are on the vent... I am not going to donate to your Go-FundMe. You need to own it.”

That seems fair. Of course the other side of the coin is that if the vaccinated start crashing and burning in a year or 2 as many Drs have warned and you took the Vax voluntarily then you
need to own it.

No Go-FundMe for you either. That way the huge numbers of Vax injuries and deaths doesn’t
become a drain on the rest of us.

Now we are on a level playing field.

Re: Now it is 5 friends in the past three weeks. [Re: jawbone] #3486706
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You have to believe one of two things about this virus:

1. It is man made and mutates/behaves differently than any other virus ever has in the history of mankind in that it mutates to become more contagious AND more lethal...this is highly regarded as conspiracy theory malarkey
2. The Delta variant(second wave) is not as serious as original covid- this has been true of viruses for centuries as virus replicate to become more contagious but less lethal...this does not jive with the healthy increased number of young healthy people catching it and dying..In fact, Scott Harris himself said in a covid briefing that the delta variant was not necessarily more dangerous than "Original" covid...that came out of his own mouth live on TV...

maybe there has been an increase in young healthy folks succumbing to the virus, maybe not and it has just been more highly pubilcized this go around....we do know as of 7/2/2021 that only 253 people with no underlying conditions lost their life to the virus(An INCREDIBLY small percentage of cases for these folks ended in mortality)..out of that demographic, only 4% of those folks were between the ages of 20-30...guys that comes out to like 12 people...one also has to wonder why comorbities are no longer being reported...

You can't have it both ways...we were taught from the earliest high school biology class that viruses mutate to become more contagious but less dangerous...you're being asked to believe something about covid that has not been true about viruses LONG before 2020

I will preface all of this with this: I could come down with covid and be dead by the end of this sentence, only the Father knows my appointed time. But from the information we have been given from the STATE health department, we are left to scratch our heads...Consider the above when you criticize someone's skepticism of a vaccine.

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